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#1 doug123

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Posted 19 July 2006 - 11:28 PM


I have received several requests for information on sources for modafinil.

Before thinking of ordering this compound, keep in mind this drug is a schedule IV controlled substance in the United States. Penalties for importing are as follows:
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http://www.dea.gov/i...l_internet.html
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Some Online pharmacies that claim to sell modafinil:

1. Freedom-Pharmacy.com:

http://www.freedom-p...2CProvigil)&T=m

2. Pharma-orders.com:

http://www.pharma-or...8b96b1e0cf61b03

3. Airsealed.com:

http://shop.airsealed.com/pd_india.cfm

Take care.

Update (4/24/06), removed prices and misc. information regarding international sources where origin may be unknown.

Edited by nootropikamil, 25 April 2007 - 04:42 AM.


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Posted 21 July 2006 - 12:55 PM

From the article linked above (http://www.nevapress...ull/5/3/193.pdf):

Some fatalities were seen at a dose of 200 mg/kg of adrafinil.

I hope that was referring to the studies with dogs and not to humans!

Edit: oops, I just realized that was 200 mg per kg and not 200mg total.

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 06:29 PM

Adam,
Mentioned price is for 1 sheet (10 tabs).
When you buy 8 or more sheets of Modafinil at www.airsealed.com you get it at $1.4 per pill ;)

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 10:42 PM

I didn't see the volume discounts. I will go edit the post to say if you buy 80 pills, they cost $1.40 per pill.

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 10:47 PM

The Online pharmacies that sell this product at the lowest prices (in descending order by price):

It looks like you have them in ascending order by price. Perhaps you meant descending order by cheapness, where $1.23 would have more "cheapness" than $1.29, etc.

Perhaps "cheapness" has the wrong connotation. Maybe "cost effectiveness"?

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 10:58 PM

Ah, I will go and fix that, a fellow mathematician...

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 11:44 PM

A cheaper source for Modafinil is Rx2World, which breaks down to

200 mg tabs x 100 for $88.55, or about $0.88 cents per pill.

I haven't used the source, but it appears to be very similar to healthpluspharmacy.com, which I have used with success. I believe there are some reviews on the OP boards which show decent service.

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 08:03 AM

Thank you for finding this link...is someone we know willing to give this place a trial run?

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 12:03 PM

...Rx2World...


rx2world must be affiliated with Freedom Pharmacy in some way. Their about pages are identical!

http://www.rx2world....efault.asp?ID=2

About Rx2world.com

Rx2world.com is a well established pharmaceutical supply company, with over 20 years experience in delivering high quality, low cost pharmaceuticals to a worldwide market.

We offer one of the largest and most diverse product ranges available on-line.

With a 24 hour turnaround from orders recieved to dispatch, we can offer a very reliable, confidential and cost effective service to our clients.

Our aim is simple.

To offer our clients the best service and the lowest possible price.



http://www.freedom-p...efault.asp?ID=2

About Freedom-Pharmacy

Freedom-Pharmacy is a well established pharmaceutical supply company, with over 20 years experience in delivering high quality, low cost pharmaceuticals to a worldwide market.

We offer one of the largest and most diverse product ranges available on-line.

With a 24 hour turnaround from orders recieved to despatch, we can offer a very reliable, confidential and cost effective service to our clients.

We have a number of reliable manufacturers and wholesalers around the world that provide us with quality generic and name brand pharmaceuticals.

Our aim is simple.

To offer our clients the best service and the lowest possible price.



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Posted 16 August 2006 - 12:40 AM

If caught, are the penalties usually less harsh than the maximum allotted penalities? Far less harsh?

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 12:19 AM

That would depend on the agenda of the individual that opens your mail....how much you ordered, etc.

I would not advise importing ANY medicine...as there is a big problem with counterfeit/substandard medicines....ESPECIALLY on the Internet.

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 12:21 AM

For more info, check:

http://www.oecd.org/...9...icines USA"

http://www.chowk.com.....niversity ave

http://www.usatoday....rugs-usat_x.htm

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/291

News
Health community calls for global action against counterfeit medicines
Friday, 26 May 2006
AFP

GENEVA, May 25, 2006 - Health professionals and officials warned on Thursday that more is being done by governments and industry to deal with the trade in counterfeit CDs than to tackle a growing wave of potentially lethal or harmful counterfeit medicines.

During a meeting on the sidelines of the World Health Organisation's annual assembly, they called for a concerted international drive against the problem.

"There is a growing threat to patient safety in the developed and developing world," said Jo Harkness, of the International Alliance of Patients' Organisations.

In more than half of the cases of counterfeit antibiotics, painkillers and other medicines uncovered in Indonesia last year, the fakes contained little or no active ingredients and were ineffective, said Kustan Tinah of Indonesia's National Agency for Drug and Food Control.

The rest contained other active ingredients or wrong doses and could have added to the suffering of people who are often already ill.

The pharmaceutical industry warned that the scale of the problem appeared to be growing, although the data available is regarded as sparse and incomplete.

Authorities carried out 781 seizures of counterfeit medicines worldwide last year, 40 per cent more than in 2004, according to figures presented by the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers Associations (IFPMA).

Seizures took place in 89 countries, compared to 67 a year earlier, with Russia, China, South Korea, Colombia, the United States and Britain topping the list, said IFPMA Director General Harvey Bale.

"The source of counterfeit products seems to be largely from two countries, China and India. They are trying to address the problem because it poses a considerable danger to their own populations," he added.

"While counterfeit CDs have been a high priority, frankly counterfeit medicines haven't," Bale said.

Industry also came under fire during the meeting, amid complaints that high prices for genuine medicines were helping to fuel the illicit trade.

Bale estimated that about one to two per cent of drugs in circulation worldwide were counterfeit, but the proportion rises sharply in developing countries where impoverished patients are desperate for affordable medicines.

"Up to 25 per cent of medicines used in developing countries are counterfeit or substandard," said Judith Oulton of the International Council of Nurses.


Oulton said there was a need to clamp down on the two key sales outlets for counterfeits, street markets in developing nations or the Internet in wealthier countrie

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Posted 31 August 2006 - 10:16 AM

2. Pharma-orders.com:

http://www.pharma-or...8b96b1e0cf61b03

$64.99; 50 200mg pills ($1.29 per 200mg pill)


Has anyone ordered from that site? Subjectively it seems the most reliable to me.

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Posted 31 August 2006 - 02:00 PM

Just to note we have lowered price of Modafinil - www.airsealed.com

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Posted 31 August 2006 - 10:25 PM

kottke; in his post here said:

Im also ordering the prescription drugs from www.indianmeds4u.com which ive heard very good things about. You can even see reviews on www.drugbuyers.com. If someone thinks otherwise give me the heads up. Sweet.....


I've never used this service...

However; prices are cheaper for modafinil than anywhere else it seems 30 pills for $29 USD (that's less than $1/pill)!

  US Name :        Provigil 200 MG      Indian Name :  Provigil 200 MG      Generic Name :  Modafinil 200 MG      Medication :      Provigil 200 MG      Min. Qty :        30.00    Price :              $29.0000



#16 ikaros

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 09:04 AM

Bumping the topic up again. Has anyone ordered from pharma-orders.com?

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 10:04 PM

Check your PM.

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 03:35 PM

I just wanted to let you all know that I received my 60 tablets from pharma-orders.com .
I found it quite odd that the tablet sheets were stuck together with tape, actually it looked like some worker had snatched them from their pharmafactory and discreetly mailed the goods in an envelope. Anyway it read "Intas pharmaceuticals, India" on the label and the company claims to be one of the top pharmaceutical companies in India, so I popped a pill (200mg) and waited for results (btw I waited especially for a time of day when I was feeling overly drowsy again). After 30 minutes the effects came on and after an hour I definately felt very awake and also full of intention to do something productive. I could also notice some euphoria, but I'm thinking it was rather from my enthousiasm that it was working.
The drug seems in many aspects similiar to methylphenidate, but with the exception of increasing BP, pulse and causing much nervousness (there was some jitteriness though). Overall it looks like a cleaner version of Ritalin, but again very very similiar to it.
Just out of pure interest does anyone have an idea why Indian pharmaceutical companies sell modafinil for almost 10 times less costly than European and American, is it because they're just manufacturing the molecule without a patent?

Edited by ikaros, 13 September 2006 - 04:10 PM.


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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:11 AM

I just wanted to let you all know that I received my 60 tablets from pharma-orders.com .
I found it quite odd that the tablet sheets were stuck together with tape, actually it looked like some worker had snatched them from their pharmafactory and discreetly mailed the goods in an envelope. Anyway it read "Intas pharmaceuticals, India" on the label and the company claims to be one of the top pharmaceutical companies in India, so I popped a pill (200mg) and waited for results (btw I waited especially for a time of day when I was feeling overly drowsy again). After 30 minutes the effects came on and after an hour I definately felt very awake and also full of intention to do something productive. I could also notice some euphoria, but I'm thinking it was rather from my enthousiasm that it was working.
The drug seems in many aspects similiar to methylphenidate, but with the exception of increasing BP, pulse and causing much nervousness (there was some jitteriness though). Overall it looks like a cleaner version of Ritalin, but again very very similiar to it.
Just out of pure interest does anyone have an idea why Indian pharmaceutical companies sell modafinil for almost 10 times less costly than European and American, is it because they're just manufacturing the molecule without a patent?


I think it is, in general, a BAD idea to import medicine from international sources...your local pharmacy is the best way to go. The Internet is far too faceless and profit too much of an incentive to expect to get reliable medicines. There are, I am sure, a lot of fakes coming into the US. A company could earn a LOT of the business from this forum if they were to submit samples of their tablets to an independent laboroatory to be quantified for purity. Would anyone else like to chip in to test the Sun/Intas product (or any other brand)? The cost would be about $300 to get the number of mg in each tablet.

Someone could submit a sample here:

http://www.integrate...aceuticals.html

I am in no way affilated with any company selling modafinil online...and I don't want to be either. If you want to gamble, that's your choice and the risk is yours to take. Importing modafinil into the US can mean jail time and fines.

The risks are summarized below:

Combating Counterfeit Drugs:
http://nootropics.ip...p?showtopic=493

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13099555/
June 2, 2006
Following the trail of counterfeit drugs
video

http://www.fda.gov/o...terfeit/qa.html
Counterfeit Drugs Questions and Answers

http://www.who.int/m.../2003/fs275/en/
Substandard and counterfeit medicines

http://www.ericturke...rfeit-drugs.htm
Counterfeit Drug Resource Page
How Fake Drugs Can Make It To Your Medicine Cabinet

India does not recognize patents. That's why it's so cheap.

The way that company mails stuff I think they try to make it look inconspicuous.

By the way: cmorera has ordered from "indianmeds4u" and got what appeared to be the exact same product that pharma-orders delivers (a Sun product marketed by Intas). I am pretty sure they cross out some information because they don't want the medicine to be traced to them if it is seized.

Edited by nootropikamil, 14 September 2006 - 12:39 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2006 - 05:02 AM

Idianmeds seems very legit to me. Ive talked to the guy numerous times and hes been very helpful.I could also be talking to some Indian escort he hires to type his emails but who knows. I like Indian women :)

My first packet has been sent out and should get here in about a week or so. I got a shitload of tianeptine cheap so hes sending it in 2 packets plus he pays with meds what you pay for the western union fee. 50 pills to be exact


Order Via:Western Union
Total Amount: $128

PRODUCT IDQTY 30 TABS PRICE PACKET NAME FREE TABS

Stablon 12.5 mg 240 16 Packet2 50 This order is shipped in two packets.


Ill let you guys know how the pills taste. Ive read many testimonials on their service and dont have the time to link them right now but just type indianmeds4u in google and about 5 pages or more come up. Ill just say my trust rate is at 90% and lowering until it arrives.

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 06:12 AM

[quote name='kottke']Ill let you guys know how the pills taste.[/quote]

[huh]

I hope they "taste" legit...what does it taste like? Actually, I know the taste of modafinil...so I guess I know what you mean...

To go off topic:

what's up with the Stablon? You still taking that stuff, eh? I don't get it...your money might be spent on better studied drugs...

as opales (our resident thinker, analyst, skeptic and peer review expert) picked from a peer review by PRESKORN, SHELDON H. MD, the evidence is remarkably weak to support its use...

From: Journal of Psychiatric Practice
Date: Volume 10(5) September 2004 pp 323-330
Tianeptine: A Facilitator of the Reuptake of Serotonin and Norepinephrine as an Antidepressant?

PRESKORN, SHELDON H. MD

SHELDON H. PRESKORN, MD, is Professor and Chairman, Department of Psychiatry, University of Kansas School of Medicine-Wichita, and Medical Director, Clinical Research Institute, Wichita, Kansas. He has more than 25 years of drug development research experience at all levels (i.e., preclinical through Phase IV) and has been a principal investigator on over 150 clinical trials including every antidepressant marketed in the United States over the last 15 years. Dr. Preskorn maintains a website at www.preskorn.com where readers can access previous columns and other publications.

[quote name='http://www.tianeptine.com/stablon-tianeptine.html']CLINICAL USE/THERAPEUTIC INDICATIONS
Efficacy for Acute Treatment

Like reboxetine1 and milnacipran2 and consistent with its primarily European development, most of the published trials of tianeptine have been active rather than placebo-controlled and results were not published in full with rigorous peer review, compromising the ability to critically assess efficacy.[/quote]

Don't you remember our lovely topic: The Tianeptine myth?

Edited by nootropikamil, 14 September 2006 - 06:23 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2006 - 07:04 AM

I did some checking up on Intas Pharmaceuticals and I think I they actually put the real thing into their pills. First of all their webpage is pretty convincing, stating how much they invest into quality control and state of the art development technology, they also had some photos from their factory which didn't look like some dump. Well it's possible that they just hired a good website designer and faked everything on the site. More convincing was that I found that Intas Pharmaceuticals is one of the first Indian pharmaceutical companies to be moving into West London. They're also entering into the whole European market and right now are supplying many European companies with their products. In addition Intas Ltd appears to be the only Indian pharmacompany which has approval from the Britain’s Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency. The article can be found here:
http://www.westlondo...index.asp?id=34

Certainly if it's all bogus they've gone through a hell of a pain to put up all this.

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 03:07 PM

Ha yea adam i was kind of joking about the "taste". Just trying to be smooth [glasses] . Im still on the Stablon and its working pretty well but i do seem to get some absolutley horrible "panic" like effects when i combine it with gpc choline so im gone with the choline for now.

Im still hanging on the basis that it may promote dentric remodelling and repair certain areas of your brain while protecting them from further damage at the time being. Im going to let my mom try some too. Basically its just a weak antidepressant that works pretty well and doesnt send you out of reality quite as bad as SSRIs. Plus i can still get it up [tung]


That tianeptine page never existed....its a myth!

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 03:20 PM

im going to have to disagree with all the FUD on international pharmacies and buying abroad considering most of those statistics are admittedly been pulled out of their ass.
and the realities of whats involved. if people are getting what works. do you think they are really going to own up or admit to it?

This forum is a life extension, nutrition, neurotropics forum.
If you want to know whats up with buying drugs online. you'd go to a moderated forum that is composed of people looking for the same thing like drugbuyers.com.

and use the other people as guinea pigs.

Yes. you risk

1. Having your meds seized but that law means nothing unless you admit to have ordering it. What happens when they are seized is you get a big scary letter (I call it a love letter) from home land security that just says the meds were seized and you can contact them if you wnat to retreive it. but contacing them means an admission of guilt

so you Ignore the letter and nothing happens. its nothing but FUD. They really aren't gonna waste money going after people ordering small amounts (less than a 90day supply) mf meds for personal use. They just seize it if their machines can catch it.


2. Fake meds. but thast why you check fro the reputation of the pharma your gonna order from and check with people who have ordered from them to see if it was real or not.

3. To be on topic, I can anecdotally vouch for the Sun Modafinil working very well. 100 - 200mg keeps me going for a long time.

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Posted 30 October 2006 - 09:18 PM

I have stupid Question. my husband has chronic fatigue, it hasn't actually been diagnosed, no one seems to exactly know WHY he's so lethargic all the time. Our Neurologist and MD say that 400MG of Provigil is the maximum daily(200mg 2x day) the FDA says to give so they won't give him any more. He's taken double doses and he tells them it works better but they still will not up his prescription. Hence why I now have to resort to buying it online. I did order some but paid an exorbinant amount for it (Modalert). But it works just as well as the Provigil he tells me. :) So at least I didn't get taken on what we got!

I'm curious as to what everyone else takes it for, would Modinfil be a good thing for him to try as well? What is the difference? I'll do just about anything to help him, it's so bad he can hardly function without and everyone has bascially given up trying to figure it out and won't up his dosage. Talk about being at your wits end.

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Posted 31 October 2006 - 05:11 PM

Provigil, Modalert, Modatec, Modvigil etc are just brand names of Modafinil. Modafinil is the actual name of active substance in all these brands :)

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Posted 08 November 2006 - 03:02 PM

Dope: A cheaper source for Modafinil is Rx2World, which breaks down to

200 mg tabs x 100 for $88.55, or about $0.88 cents per pill.

I haven't used the source, but it appears to be very similar to healthpluspharmacy.com, which I have used with success. I believe there are some reviews on the OP boards which show decent service.

Noot: Thank you for finding this link...is someone we know willing to give this place a trial run?

Very positive oredering experience with RX2World:

200 mg tabs x 100 modafinil (Sun Modalert) $99.00 + $15.00 postage to Europe. (Gone up since Dopamine's post but then most have).

Ordered Noon 1/Nov/06 online

Shipped 3/Nov/06 (email automatically sent to inform me)

Arrived 8/Nov/06 Boxed, intact in anonymous packaging.

Suffice to say I will have to wait an see if the quality is as it appears but that is faster than most of my domestic suppliers of herbs and vitamins!!

So : Cheapest, fastest. So far so good.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating....


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Posted 13 November 2006 - 11:40 AM

Yep,

Product as described, I'm quite stim-sensitive so I'm just taking 100mg AM and same PM otherwise I get a bit tense. Not wildly different to caffeine but less physical jittering due to its selective effects and cheaper than going to Starbucks!

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 08:15 AM

Thank you sentinel. It's good to hear positive feedback about cheap and reliable international drug sources. I'd still like to see some independent testing results.

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 08:56 AM

I'll get my junior chemistry set out :)

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