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"It does not come to us as a shock that a meta-analysis of 19 clinical trials shows little beneficial effect from high doses of some forms of Vitamin E. In fact, results from these studies are well known and have been well publicised, particularly in Sweden. Although the John Hopkins study has not been publicly released, we assume that the studies included in the meta-analysis are very likely to have involved only one particular formof Vitamin E, namely alpha-tocopherol, which is often produced synthetically.
A convincing body of evidence now points to the fact that alpha-tocopherol in supplements, particularly at high doses, might reduce the body's uptake of vital components of Vitamin E which are much more effective antioxidants than alpha-tocopherol (e.g. Handelman GJ et al,J Nutr 115; 807-13,1985; Burton GH et al,Am J Clin Nutr67; 669-84, 1998; Huang HY, Appel LJ.J Nutr 133; 3137-40, 2003.) These components includegamma- and beta-tocopherols, and tocotrienols.
It is a very rich irony that the European Commission has seen fit to allow the alpha-tocopherol form in its its new Food Supplement Directive, set to come in to force in August 2005 across Europe if unchallenged,whilst it bans the natural, food forms, which are much more beneficial as food supplements. This is one reason why we are challenging the Directive in the European Court of Justice next year.
Negative publicity about Vitamin E, which is likely to follow as a result of misinterpretations over the science behind the John Hopkins study, could scare people unnecessarily and stop them using important food supplements. Food supplements are invaluable as a means of guaranteeing levels of key nutrients, such as natural Vitamin E, known to be depleted or deficient in the diet of large numbers of people."
Posted 16 November 2004 - 05:49 PM
I can't wait to hear what AORsupport has to say about this...
AOR has an excellent article on their site explaining which forms are best etc...
I'm on the email list for http://www.askbillsardi.com and he sent this analysis of the study.
Are Americans Really At Increased Risk of Dying From High-Dose Vitamin E Pills?
Examine The Data For Yourself
The authors concluded that "Overall, vitamin E supplementation did not affect all-cause mortality." That is not what you heard in televised news reports or in the newspapers. What you heard was there is a 5 to 10 percent (5 to 10 in 100) increased risk of dying from taking high-dose vitamin E supplements.
The way health statisticians tabulate their data is to list the relative difference in risk. So in this case the risk for the control group that didn't vitamin E supplement pills is listed as 1.00, and the relative risk of dying for people taking low-dose vitamin E supplements was 0.98 and for high-dose vitamin E supplements 1.04. This appears as a 6% relative difference, but in hard numbers the risk rose by 10 in 10,000 persons, or 1 in 1000 (about 1/10th of one percent). This is what health statisticians say is "statistically significant."
There are biases and underlying factors in many published medical reports. This report was no exception. The authors of the study indicate, among the 19 studies they examined, "Most of the trials examined targeted populations at high risk for a chronic disease, most often coronary heart disease." This fact obviously skewed the results. A recent study, the Vitamins and Lifestyle (VITAL) study, conducted among 45,748 participants ranging in age from 50 to 75 years, revealed that persons with cardiovascular disease are more likely to be taking vitamin E supplements. [American Journal Preventive Medicine 24: 43-51, 2003] People who have heart and blood vessel disease are at a greater risk of dying and are more likely to take high-dose vitamin E supplements.
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I think from my lay-person perspective I can speculate that you have the full spectrum of the pherols and tocotrienols. The lady on the phone failed to recognize we can get tocotrienols more easily than she thinks.
I think the safety be damned E Regimen is not too much and Full spectrum... under 150 IU. I thought that is 10 E vitamers total. BAC has tocotrienols sold seperately as does AOR.
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Posted 01 March 2016 - 02:29 PM
Just wanted to mention, I know this is an old thread and Tocotrienols are really the way for e vitamers, according to my readings. Palm oil extracts If anyone is reading this. I'm looking for a supplement that contains a high amount of Alpha Carotenes. Any suggestions, thanks!
Posted 01 March 2016 - 06:58 PM
Pointless time waster is here nevermore. Have fun at the next "Make America great again" rally.
Posted 02 March 2016 - 02:08 AM
I lied, I'm here every day reading everything I can read. Funny there used to be active moderation with intelligent discussion. Now its narco-spam and neolithic negs.
Posted 02 March 2016 - 09:17 PM
Shouldn't anyone/everyone just read the Shute Brothers book before making a decision? (I haven't as of yet)
After all, they were curing Heart Disease with it decades ago.
Posted 03 March 2016 - 06:34 PM
Agreed, thanks for your interest here. I'm having the best results by combining( Nutricology) Tocomin SupraBio Tocotrienols with R plus(Geronova) and a (Country Life) carotenoid complex. A person can get 2 of those plus 3.7 mgs of Alpha Carotene with an expensive bulk palm oil extract called "Palm Fruit" from Botanical Craft. Expensive and it needs to be mixed in with yogurt for the best absorbtion. Bottomline is: high amounts of trienols, and highest Alpha Carotenes, throw in some rla, then hopefully, feel better soon. I would remember that not all supplements are created equal. The best selection and lowest price is Vitacost.com, the others are geronova and botanicalcraft. I hope that helps some one. Love saves!
Edited by 2tender, 03 March 2016 - 06:49 PM.
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