Statistics Every Immortalist Should Know
In this thread we'll explore and compile statistics concerning the debate on physical immortality. I hope to organize this thread into talking points and add this resource to the documents folder.
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Beliefs in Evolution/Creation
In views that diverge widely from those in other developed nations, in a November 1997 poll by the Gallup Organization that quizzed people about their views on the origin of humans, 44 percent agreed with the statement, “God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so.” Another 39 percent subscribed to a “theistic evolution” view, that humans did develop over millions of years from lower life forms, but God guided the process. Only 10 percent said they believe in evolution with no participation from God. Seven percent had no opinion.
A 1991 survey asking the exact same question in 17 countries found adults elsewhere were much less likely to take the literal view. In Great Britain, for instance, the percentage was 7 percent. Germany, Norway, Russia and the Netherlands were also among the nations where a smaller percentage of adults believed in taking the Bible literally
http://abcnews.go.co...iews990816.html
Interestingly, the article indicates that the reason America has a higher number of people taking the Bible literally is because the US is a very free and open country in respect to religion. This creates a 'competition' for customers. Because of this competition, there is much more proselytizing to bring people into a certain fold.
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What is the progress on this project ?. It seems this thread has been idle for some time.
Posted 13 August 2004 - 06:57 PM
So what about someone who believes in Christianity, Evolution, and Transhumanism? Is such a person "backwards"? I realize where you were going with this, but...These stats are a sad look at just how backwards most Americans really are. I shudder to think that there are this many disillusioned human beings on this planet. I would have thought there would be more transhumanists members but again much lower than I would have thought.
Posted 14 August 2004 - 09:41 AM
Posted 15 August 2004 - 01:30 AM
Agreed.With that in mind however, many members of this board are well aware of the threat that organized religion(s) can pose to transhumanist pursuits. Those sections of the religious population that want to impede progress or limit social evolution of a society because of their beliefs.
Indeed, I've found this to be the case in discussions with others of my faith (or I suppose I should say, of my religion. Our "faith" is placed in many of the same things, but to vastly different degrees).Even if you subscribe to the same religion as some of these people, you may not interpret your religious belief the same way and can support transhumanism in the face of such resistance from fellow religious followers.
Yes, it came across quite well. And thanks for not being judgemental.This post may seem a little jumbled but I hope I got my point across...
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World Average:
~30,000 Days :: Average Human Lifespan in 2000 ~63 Years
~15,000 Days :: Average Human Lifespan in 1900 ~48 Years
~7,000 Days :: Average Human Lifespan in 1800 ~24 Years
Posted 22 February 2007 - 02:34 PM
Only 10 percent said they believe in evolution with no participation from God.
Posted 22 February 2007 - 07:35 PM
Edited by shadowrun, 22 February 2007 - 07:47 PM.
Posted 23 February 2007 - 12:43 AM
Posted 23 February 2007 - 09:37 PM
It seems to me that a group such as ours should be mostly made up of this group.
However, I cannot count myself among those 10%, because I do not 'believe' in evolution.
I know it has occured as fact. This is different from belief.
Belief is NOT science. Belief is faith.
The only hope we have of avoiding death does not lie with belief. It lies with PROOF of facts. It lies with science. One cannot 'believe' science any more than one can perform "faith surgery", (if we remember the Gary Larson cartoon). If you 'believe' in the findings of science, you don't understand science. You are practicing pseudoscience, which is not the same thing.
Please excuse my arrogance in sounding like a lecturer, but the point needs to be made, and I think the more scientifically minded we immortalists become, the closer our goal is.
Posted 24 February 2007 - 12:59 AM
Posted 24 February 2007 - 04:31 AM
There is no 'belief' in any of that. It relies on solid proof: the record is there for us to see, no matter where in the world you live, no matter what differing specimens you use. There are no inductions to be used when you have a fossil of Archaeopteryx in front of you.
Show me where proof is not the key concept of science and then I *might* believe you. If I were credulous.
Posted 24 February 2007 - 05:15 AM
Hardly. 'Belief' and 'Proof' are not compatible.
Evolution is proven to have occured.
Where is there 'belief' in the fossil records, showing intermediate forms?
Where is there 'belief' in Comparative Vertebrate Anatomy, showing distant relation in diverse groups?
Where is there 'belief' in comparing the DNA of diverse groups?
There is no 'belief' in any of that. It relies on solid proof: the record is there for us to see, no matter where in the world you live, no matter what differing specimens you use. There are no inductions to be used when you have a fossil of Archaeopteryx in front of you.
Show me where proof is not the key concept of science and then I *might* believe you. If I were credulous.
You seem to be using philosophy, am I right?
Posted 24 February 2007 - 01:22 PM
Do we know the 'law' of gravity applies 100 light years away?
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