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What are you doing to achieve immortality?
#31
Posted 06 July 2004 - 06:39 PM
My intention was to create a software that could create ideas for human, not knowing that i was creating something more than an artificial intelligent.
So, i have to change the course.I find out that knowledge will have to be giving to it "apparently first" by human.
Is that a human or a god?
What i'm doing now is how computer could be instinct and make decision which is "self will consciousness" through programing.
Presently, i'm working on the mind and the brain.
Thanks to the imminst.
#32
Posted 19 November 2004 - 03:46 AM
As has been duly noted, not everyone involved with longevity solutions will be directly involved with its unraveling. It's apparent to me that contributing to the creation of and attaining life-extension treatments will still operate as a market economy does. The way I see it, I may not be a molecular biologist, but I'm completing ideas such as a patent for a clean energy system, for example, which is enabling me to contribute to the overall cause in the form of funding and voice.
On the micro side, I practice CRON, engage in low-impact excercise, and work on supplement mixtures to keep myself at my personal best as I age so I will be able to accept even the 'harshest to recover from' treatments when the time comes.
These kind of threads truly inspire me to continue to make sure I have a place in this brave new world. [thumb]
Edited by cromwl, 20 November 2004 - 08:12 PM.
#33
Posted 20 November 2004 - 02:54 AM
To help myself achieve immortality (the best for me) I am trying to lose weight and have implemented a herbal program. As a result, this year, I haven't had any colds or flus. I usually get severe flus and pneumonia several times a year.
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#34
Posted 20 November 2004 - 05:08 AM
Helping myself live a long time: Practicing some degree of calorie restriction. Taking various supplements. Not engaging in high-risk behaviors. Not smoking. Learning everything I can about aging / prevention of aging. Maintaining a positive attitude: the worst thing a person can do is decide "it's hopeless, I'm just going to give up and die."
#35
Posted 20 November 2004 - 08:23 AM
To help others achieve immortality (or at least longevity), I'm working on campaigns to stop drug abuse, smoking, and heavy drinking, all of which are prevalent in my high school.
I commend you on this effort, isn't an easy task.
#36
Posted 22 November 2004 - 09:54 AM
Yeah right, I can see that you really are an "ecologist" as you say.
#37
Posted 26 November 2004 - 11:54 AM
My next goal is to help people connect their brains directly to computers.
I think immortality should be seen from the standpoint of consciousness; for without consciousness in effect we are dead. Therefore if we can prolong consciousness indefinitely then we are indefinitely existing.
Consider that when we are in deep profound dreamless sleep, we are in effect dead to ourselves, and to others only a lump of flesh. Similarly also when we are in a comatose state, in general anaesthesia, in a fainting spell, being knocked out cold: in all these instances if we do not regain consciousness, then we are dead.
What is consciousness? To know the answer we just have to consider all the things we are while conscious which we are not while unconscious.
Before anything else then, consciousness is being aware of our inner environment and also our outer environment. To be aware of our outer environment we need the senses, sight, hearing, taste, smell, touch, and for our inner environment we need, at the risk of being solipsistic, also the external senses, but very important the self-same consciousness itself as some kind of a super sense, by which we are aware of being in pleasure, in pain, in peace, worrying, angry, etc.
Next component of consciousness is memory, both the memory content of cognitive data and the faculty of accessing these data.
At this point, I think we must distinguish two spheres of consciousness in every individual, first, the generic consciousness, and second, the proprietary consciousness.
The generic consciousness is that whereby we are aware, as I said earlier, of our inner world and our outer world by our senses and our very self-same consciousness as a super sense.
The proprietary consciousness consists in the possession of and access to the memory data whereby we know ourselves to be ourselves, our name, our family identity consisting of the knowledge of who are the members of our family by consanguinity and by affinity, and all the records of residence, education, work, social activities, etc., which make us more and more an entity constituted of the identifying data that come to us in life and we achieved in the course of life.
Conclusion is that if our biological body is gone, but we have preserved some kind of an object or even a device whereby it is conscious of its inner and outer environments and it possesses all the memory data of ourselves making up our idenity, and it can access these data, in other words, an object or device that holds within itself in a dynamic fashion all the features of generic and proprietary consciousness by which Susma is Susma and no other entity, then we shall have achieved immortality even without a biological body and brain.
Susma aka Pachomius2000
#38
Posted 23 May 2005 - 09:07 PM
http://groups.myspace.com/4everyoung
and joined the Longevity Meme Folding@Home team http://www.fightagin...ives/000485.php
Edited by mrfesta, 01 January 2006 - 09:15 AM.
#39
Posted 24 May 2005 - 12:40 PM
Well, since I am young, I'm not doing too much;
I am taking care of my health- workout and eat well, and take Omega 3 (and in the future this shall increase to more supplements I believe).
However, I am studying now at school, will soon finish 8 grade. After that things are not quite sure, I am up to start a BA in philosophy although that's not sure, maybe only one grade up or something- also not sure...
Will update when there will be something for somewhat sure.
Nice thread to gather all together.
My future plans are to start a singing career and get some big money. Also, that will make people hear me- and then perhaps start listen. People are following the fame, so that's a good way to change people's views.
Yours truthfully
~Infernity
#40
Posted 01 January 2006 - 04:37 AM
we have all the specialists already. it is more about able to make people come together for common aim of immortaliy.
the electrican will see things that physcisits cannot see, the optoelectronics will see differently, and brain scientists can teach people how to increase brain capcity.
hence different people can supplment their skills and cause a great increase in knowledge. but first, people have to have a common goal first.
#41
Posted 31 January 2006 - 11:31 AM
#42
Posted 13 February 2006 - 02:15 AM
Since I am in australia it may not be possible to do much, but since we are both in the position of "until i get there there isnt much i can do" we should maybe stay in contact until there is something we can do. I think we both have HUGE amounts to learn before we can even consider starting a biotech business.
#43
Posted 13 February 2006 - 06:14 PM
Why aren't we running through the streets begging humanity in any way possible to help?
...well people running through the streets can't convince anybody of anything, but you get my drift.
#44
Posted 13 February 2006 - 07:06 PM
To help others achieve immortality (or at least longevity), I'm working on campaigns to stop drug abuse, smoking, and heavy drinking, all of which are prevalent in my high school. I'm also trying to get my parents to switch to solar power, especially since we have gotten a lot of blackouts lately.
...lol
How does that relate even REMOTELY to immortality?
Not even close. Best to just wipe the whole slate clean and go back to the drawing board.
#45
Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:28 PM
As well, convincing people to switch to solar (when it's currently on their own dollar, since solar is expensive) will decrease the energy-load on the planet, meaning more available energy for everyone else.
#46
Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:33 PM
#47
Posted 14 February 2006 - 01:15 AM
#48
Posted 14 February 2006 - 07:06 AM
#49
Posted 14 February 2006 - 05:08 PM
Haha, how I miss Australia!Leftist dunderheaded boobs
For everyone who wants to do such a thing anywhere, here's a great resource to start, with links to legal documents and everything: World stem cell mapfind out what our policy on stem cell research is!
#50
Posted 15 February 2006 - 12:49 AM
BTW John, over the past 3 months I have said goodbye to 4 germans going back to germany. I shared my lab bench with 2 of them. I myself have spent 2 months on exchange in germany during highschool. What is with the AUS-Germany connection?? lol
#51
Posted 15 February 2006 - 01:25 AM
#52
Posted 15 February 2006 - 02:02 AM
This map is misleading. Note that it only pertains to "whether or not public funds may be used to pursue stem cell research using IVF embryos donated from fertility clinics." That's a very specific issue that doesn't give the big picture at all.For everyone who wants to do such a thing anywhere, here's a great resource to start, with links to legal documents and everything: World stem cell map.
For instance, on this map Canada is listed as "flexible" while the U.S. is listed as "restrictive". In fact, anyone can do therapeutic cloning research in the U.S. with private or state funds, while cloning is TOTALLY ILLEGAL in Canada.
As Virginia Postrel wrote a few months ago
http://www.forbes.co...5/1017/120.html
At a business conference this summer in Toronto Richard Florida, author of The Rise of the Creative Class, told the Canadians again and again how wonderful they are--how open to new ideas, how tolerant, how diverse and therefore how potentially creative. Unlike the U.S., which is afflicted by divisiveness and the religious right, Canada is a model country. That was his story, at any rate.
A few hours later I picked up a newspaper and got a different view. On the op-ed page a scientist was pleading for Canada to repeal its law against cloning human embryos for research. In tolerant, open-minded, diverse and creative Canada therapeutic cloning--defined as creating an in vitro embryo with the same chromosomes as any other individual--is a crime punishable by ten years in prison.
In the divisive, religiously addled U.S. a similar measure has failed repeatedly to become federal law. (Some states ban therapeutic cloning.)
U.S. scientists and their supporters tend to assume biomedical research is threatened by know-nothings on religious crusades. But as the Canadian law illustrates, the long-term threat to genetic research comes less from the religious right than from the secular left. Canada's law forbids all sorts of genetic manipulations, many of them currently theoretical. It's a crime, for instance, to alter inheritable genes.
---BrianW
#53
Posted 15 February 2006 - 02:17 AM
I completely agree with that, it's the same in Europe.the long-term threat to genetic research comes less from the religious right than from the secular left
#54
Posted 15 February 2006 - 05:17 AM
#55
Posted 08 June 2006 - 02:37 AM
A robust gene therapy method to enact fixes readily (once we can read it would be good to also be able to write).
A nondestructive 3D atomic resolution microscope, able to view proteins in their natural states in real-time.
Powerful computing methods to predict protein folding and general molecular interactions for improvement/constructing/experimenting purposes. This leads to simulation.
Edited by zerowave, 24 July 2006 - 03:33 AM.
#56
Posted 08 June 2006 - 04:45 PM
I am convinced that computing horsepower is going to start increasing exponentially in the near future and anticipate that an open source effort is on the horizon to build a simulator thus I'm studying complexity theory, molecular dynamics, modeling and nonlinear algorithms. Oh yeah, and bioinformatics, systems biology, biochemistry, physics... *sigh* Not enough time in the day :(
#57
Posted 27 June 2006 - 07:21 AM
And in life one needs to be patient, you can't make a million dollars a year, before you can make 500,000. So you gain experience, knowledge and credibility over time, opening doors to make much more money. But if you become wildly successful you can finance great things, which has been my longterm plan. This year I hope to donate 5,000 dollars to Sens research or the expenses. And hopefully each year I will be able to donate much more then the year before it. Doubling the donation size each year is my goal, so far it looks very possible.
Looking farther out as my career advances, I would like to manage money in funds for investors. And use some of the funds money to invest in companies involved in research for anti-aging research. Like stem cell companies which already a few are publicly traded. So help provide the capital to finance the research. But also I think it could deliver great return for the investors too. Look at what Lipitor has already done, the first 10 billion dollar a year blockbuster drug. Lowering ldl cholestoral to me should be classified as an anti-aging drug. And whereas drugs that cure a disease only can be sold to people with that disease. An anti-aging drug can be sold to everyone. I am excited to see with torcemid, Pfizer's next big drug that will raise hdl cholestoral. Which in trials I believe has shown ability to clear out some plaque buildup in the arteries. Which I would classify in the external junk category of sens research.
#58
Posted 27 June 2006 - 08:10 AM
and anticipate that an open source effort is on the horizon to build a simulator thus I'm studying complexity theory, molecular dynamics, modeling and nonlinear algorithms. Oh yeah, and bioinformatics, systems biology, biochemistry, physics... *sigh* Not enough time in the day :(
I've got a seemingly odd suggestion of something else to add to the stacks of study - management. Your post really sparked my imagination, and I started bouncing around ideas of how such an open source effort might progress. I could really see something like that coming across with a very, very, well rounded benevolent dictator at the helm. One of the biggest killers of large open source projects that I've noticed is lack of someone to ease inter-participant conflict, and someone to firmly direct who attends to what among the core participants. The same chaotic drive which seems to drive small to medium sized open source projects often appears to have a slowing quality when applied to projects of much greater size.
And on writing that, my reply seems to have somewhat the tone of "You know, the sky is blue." or "Hey guys! I just discovered that most dogs have tails!". Still, it's an interesting path to muse about, potentially over obvious observations aside.
#59
Posted 28 June 2006 - 02:57 AM
Im a fullmember here, Ive written my local representatives. And I've joined Alcor. Also done some folding @home.
Q.2 Basically Hoping. Im a middle class american living in a poorer part of the country. Cryonics is barely in my budget but I find the money. Im also here willing to help when the call comes and if I help enough maybe someone will remember me and thaw me out:)
#60
Posted 09 March 2008 - 10:36 AM
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