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#1 advancedatheist

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Posted 27 December 2004 - 03:33 PM


http://space.com/sci...isk_041224.html

Asteroid With Chance of Hitting Earth in 2029 Now Being Watched 'Very Carefully'

By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 24 December 2004
09:58 am ET


Update, Dec. 25, 9:47 p.m. ET: The risk of an impact by asteroid 2004 MN4 went up slightly on Saturday, Dec. 25. It is now pegged at having a 1-in -45 chance of striking the planet on April 13, 2029. That's up from 1-in-63 late on Dec. 24, and 1-in-300 early on Dec. 24.

Astronomers still stress that it is very likely the risk will be reduced to zero with further observations. And even as it stands with present knowledge, the chances are 97.8 percent the rock will miss Earth.



#2 Lazarus Long

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Posted 27 December 2004 - 03:50 PM

Yeah I have been thinking of posting this one too, but I was waiting till a little more data came in as well as wanting to point out that another one got past our radar without being seen until too late. Some early warning system we have here.

http://story.news.ya...ellitesandearth

Also in light of over twenty thousand dead and a million displaced persons by yesterdays' tsunami in the Indian Ocean I think this one deserves an honorable mention in the threat to life category.

December 25, 2004 - 08:26 PM
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Posted 28 December 2004 - 04:19 AM

And this was why I was waiting. They say it is no longer a threat.
http://neo.jpl.nasa....ws/news148.html

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#4 jaydfox

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Posted 19 April 2005 - 07:50 PM

Update: It will pass so close to earth in 2029 that, without further study, we can't predict it's trajectory after 2029:

http://www.timesonli...1573790,00.html

A HUGE asteroid which is on a course to miss the Earth by a whisker in 2029 could go round its orbit again and score a direct hit a few years later.

Astronomers have calculated that the 1,000ft-wide asteroid called 2004 MN4 will pass by the Earth at a distance of between 15,000 and 25,000 miles—about a tenth of the distance between the Earth and the Moon and close enough to be seen with the naked eye.

Although they are sure that it will miss us, they are worried about the disturbance that such a close pass will give to the asteroid’s orbit. It might put 2004 MN4 on course for a collision in 2034 or a year or two later: the unpredictability of its behaviour means that the danger might not become apparent until it is too late.


The difference between 1,025,000km and 1,040,000km, from a gravitational perspective, is quite small, so a flyby that close wouldn't have much impact on subsequent predictions (pun intended).

But the difference between 25,000km and 40,000km is anything but small. Hence the unpredictability of the new course after the 2029 flyby.

It's worth noting that there's a chance the asteroid could pass within the orbit of geostationary satellites, putting it "within man's reach", so to speak (that was my quote, in case you're looking for it in the article).




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