I'm 17, and I'm wondering, would taking nootropics even affect me?
If so, which nootropics do you think would help improve my memory and speed?
Posted 03 May 2005 - 01:56 AM
Posted 03 May 2005 - 02:41 AM
I'm 17, and I'm wondering, would taking nootropics even affect me?
If so, which nootropics do you think would help improve my memory and speed?
Posted 03 May 2005 - 04:42 AM
Edited by exigentsky, 03 May 2005 - 04:58 AM.
Posted 03 May 2005 - 05:44 AM
What about Piracetam? Should I bother with that?
Also, I'm quite resistant to taking any pharmaceutical drugs when not strictly necessary, so are you sure that Pyritinol is totally safe and without contraindication?
This for example: http://bmj.bmjjourna...ll/328/7439/572 is worrying me.
These drugs were not meant for extended use, as in the rest of one's life.
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Posted 01 June 2005 - 11:35 PM
Exigentsky you seem to be a very intelligent young man or woman, I'm 28 years old and if i knew then what you know now i would not take anything. I think you should be very carefull is all, I think you may have a mental edge on 80% of the people your age already. Then again I know nothing about these nootropics, and LifeMirage seems to now a ton.Good luck with it all.
TheHawk
The fact that he's recommending substances that aren't expensive, aren't patented, etc., in my mind further illustrates his credibility.
Posted 02 June 2005 - 01:46 AM
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Posted 02 June 2005 - 05:38 AM
True, but of course, it is not as if he is not biased either.
Nootropics are important to his career as well as relevance and hence he will favor them.
He has nothing to gain from nootropics having a bad reputation, but he has a lot to lose. (he is working on a book about nootropics whose sales may depend on how attractive and credible nootropics appear to the public).
Furhtermore, as many car commercials emphasize the prospect of buying a new car (often by making it a social status symbol or associating other traits of the person with it (hyperreality)) over the exact brand, so too LifeMirage aims to help spread the use and improve the reputation of nootropics in general. Simply because one does not recommend a specific brand is not proof of impartiality.
All I am really trying to stress is that while LifeMirage is helpful and probably honest, he cannot be considered impartial on the matter and hence we cannot raise his credibility on accounts of impartiality.
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I personally think it is highly unlikely for someone so knowledgeable about nootropics, studying nootropics, and promoting nootropics to be completely impartial about the subject. (even when trying to be impartial)
I am not attacking you personally and have gained nothing but excellent knowledge from you, however I feel that I would be lying if I wrote that you are totally impartial.
BTW: This should not really be something so surprising, almost no one can be totally impartial on something. Life experience, and other factors will most certainly influence him or her.
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Posted 06 March 2006 - 10:16 PM
It is a safe compound.
It has been studied in healthy people with no side effects.
Your fears are based on a handful of people over probably 500,000 or more people who have used it with no problems?
Yet you consume foods, breathe air, and drink water full of toxic compounds everyday without that fear?
Seriously your fear is not based on the weight if scientific evidence.
And as far as your reasoning Pyritinol is effective in treatment RA and improving the quality of life in the patients. There is no study showing Pyritinol to be toxic, causing serious or lasting damage to the body.
But if you wish you can take Vincamine instead to get the desired effects you are looking for.
Posted 06 March 2006 - 10:22 PM
It is a safe compound.
It has been studied in healthy people with no side effects.
Your fears are based on a handful of people over probably 500,000 or more people who have used it with no problems?
Yet you consume foods, breathe air, and drink water full of toxic compounds everyday without that fear?
Seriously your fear is not based on the weight if scientific evidence.
And as far as your reasoning Pyritinol is effective in treatment RA and improving the quality of life in the patients. There is no study showing Pyritinol to be toxic, causing serious or lasting damage to the body.
But if you wish you can take Vincamine instead to get the desired effects you are looking for.
Pyritinol is a dangerous drug with numerous reported side effects associated with organ toxicity (1). It has been banned in the UK. More importantly, the mechanism by which pyritinol mediates its cognitive modulation effects, an increase in extracellular ATP (2), has been found to act as a neuron apoptosis mechanism (3).
(1) http://bmj.bmjjourna...ll/328/7439/572
(2) http://www.ncbi.nlm....3&dopt=Abstract
(3) http://www.ncbi.nlm....l=pubmed_docsum
http://www.ncbi.nlm....l=pubmed_docsum
Posted 06 March 2006 - 10:51 PM
J Hyg Epidemiol Microbiol Immunol. 1983;27(4):373-80. Related Articles, Links
Brain maldevelopment and delayed neuro-behavioural deviations, induced by perinatal insults, and possibilities of their prevention.
Benesova O.
Noxious insults interfering perinatally lead to disorganization of normal perinatal brain development characterized by growth acceleration and intensive histogenesis and known as a sensitive "vulnerable" period of CNS development. Thus induced abnormities, sometimes very discrete, give rise to functional pathology which becomes apparent gradually during maturation as neurobehavioural deviations. For the study of these pathogenetic processes, two experimental models were established. Rat was chosen as an advantageous model animal since the "brain growth spurt" occurring in man in the third trimester of gravidity is shifted postnatally in this altricial species. Prolonged neonatal malnutrition (days 1-40) lead in adult rats to behavioural abnormities (hyperactivity, stereotypy, decreased adaptability, aggressivity) associated with biochemical and electrophysiological alterations in the brain. But this multifactorial and long-term insult was not suitable for more precise analysis. Therefore short-term inhibition of protein synthesis was induced in 7-day-old rats by cycloheximide which resulted in delayed behavioural deviations (hyperactivity, decreased habituation, learning deficit, motor incoordination) connected with permanent morphological, biochemical and endocrinological alterations. These models were used for testing brain maldevelopment-regulatory action of nootropics. Pyritinol administered for 7-10 days following the noxious intervention prevented the brain maldevelopment and functional disturbances in both experimental models. Favourable effects of early and long-term pyritinol treatment on neuro-psycho-pathological sequels of perinatal distress were confirmed in clinical controlled prospective study of 128 high-risk newborns.
Posted 07 March 2006 - 12:11 AM
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