18:28:02 James R. Hughes: -- I am an Anti-aging MD, Immortalist and lifetime learner
18:29:59 James R. Hughes: -- I mostly go by "Jim"
18:30:20 FutureQ Hiya Jim, it's James
18:30:33 FutureQ James Swayze
18:30:56 FutureQ FutureQ is now known as James
18:31:09 James R. Hughes: -- I've never done one of these Chat things before and am a slow typist
18:31:13 James James is now known as James_Swayze
18:31:46 James_Swayze FutureQ is my >H handle
18:32:20 Rotaerk jim, have you tried typing that?
18:32:25 James_Swayze Jim do you remember when I fell out of my wheelchair at Asilomar?
18:32:35 James R. Hughes: -- That's a good handle, I've read most of your cryonet material
18:33:41 Jonesey were you dancing James_Swayze?
18:33:49 James_Swayze And you interviewed me for your radio show twice
18:34:01 serenade James_Swayze, wrong Hughes
18:34:01 James_Swayze heh, I wish
18:34:07 Jonesey one can get carried away doing the hokey pokey
18:34:25 James_Swayze I had just arrived and was in the main lodge and it was so dark inside
18:34:40 James_Swayze out the back was a door to the beach and it was real bright
18:34:53 James_Swayze so bright it hid the fact there were steps
18:35:10 James_Swayze I went sailing over and dumped outta my wheelchair
18:35:15 Jonesey whoa dangerous
18:36:06 Rotaerk ouch
18:36:16 Rotaerk why're you in a wheelchair :\
18:36:24 James R. Hughes: -- Not a good longevity plan
18:36:28 James_Swayze Oh/ wrong James hughes? My mistake
18:36:44 James_Swayze I am a qaudriplegic
18:36:49 Rotaerk :(
18:37:03 Rotaerk hmm...
18:37:10 James_Swayze www.davidpascal.com/swayze
18:37:22 Rotaerk wait...how're you typing
18:37:51 James_Swayze I stuff stiks with rubber tubing slid over into my paralyzed fists
18:38:01 James_Swayze My arms move but not fingers
18:38:11 James_Swayze he arms are wired very weirdly
18:38:24 Rotaerk damn..that sucks
18:38:53 James_Swayze Ok, I'm stealing Jim's thunder, Jim tell us more about you.
18:39:20 James_Swayze What is your practice?
18:39:31 James R. Hughes: -- I've been involved in Anti-Aging Medicine for >15 years
18:39:55 James_Swayze Sorry, In my mistaken identity I didn't read your bio. I am aquainted as you can tell with the
18:40:01 James_Swayze other James Hughes
18:40:03 James R. Hughes: -- I learned as much as possible as a selfish endeavor
18:40:30 James_Swayze nothing wrong with that
18:40:47 James R. Hughes: -- I would love to be one of the first "immortals"
18:41:01 James_Swayze so would we all
18:41:03 serenade James R. Hughes: -- , what supplements are you taking?
18:41:07 serenade and which do you recommend
18:41:18 Walt-Disney hey james
18:41:24 Walt-Disney do you want to help me ?
18:41:30 James_Swayze Are you signed up for cryonics? I assume yes if you keep up with the wild wild cryonet
18:41:38 James R. Hughes: -- The money for the current time is one the anti-oxidants, and a wide variety of them.
18:42:15 Walt-Disney James_Swayze
18:42:17 Rotaerk how powerful are anti-oxidants regarding antioxidants
18:42:23 James_Swayze yes?
18:42:28 Walt-Disney would you want to be an admin and help me to post news for www.nanoaging.com ?
18:42:29 Rotaerk oops
18:42:33 Rotaerk regarding anti-aging
18:42:37 Walt-Disney you would be a super user
18:42:38 Rotaerk >_<
18:43:14 James R. Hughes: -- I think that sounds pretty good
18:43:26 James_Swayze Hmmm, I'll have to think about it Jon. I an soo over extended right now.
18:43:41 James_Swayze Let's talk in emailmore about it
18:43:53 serenade James R. Hughes: -- , what sort of anti-aging advancements are you currently working on?
18:43:54 Walt-Disney ok
18:44:21 James_Swayze I'm on Methuselah Foundation board and Venturist PI mag advisor and more.
18:44:30 James R. Hughes: -- I take 200mg VitC 200mg Picnogenol, 1 Gm NAC, Carnitine, and a powerful Multivit
18:44:36 Walt-Disney Personally I think biogerontology is a waste of time, we should more focus on mind uploading, we could put our memory/identity chip everywhere, in cars, moto, vtt, virtual reality, fuck the bio
18:44:53 serenade do you take any Nootropes? Piracetam perhaps
18:44:54 Jonesey are you on CR James R. Hughes: -- ?
18:45:00 Jonesey calorie restriction
18:45:16 James R. Hughes: -- I like the idea of uploading but think it is still a ways off
18:45:32 Walt-Disney humans are unable to fight against cars, robots, we should become robots
18:46:06 Walt-Disney immortality is in the crystal
18:46:07 Walt-Disney !
18:46:08 Rotaerk uploading requires a lot of "hard problems" to be solved first, not to mention the technical stuff
18:46:08 Walt-Disney lol
18:46:16 James R. Hughes: -- I don't do CR as my life is a bit too stressful to accomadate it, and think there are soon to be ways around it
18:47:27 James_Swayze WD, what if people aren't comfortable ith just being data, even though that's what they are now in meat media, lots of people won't accept for a long time become purely electronic.
18:47:58 James R. Hughes: -- To preserve the best, we need to do all that is available to minimize damage before cloning, nanotech and stemcell research make their impact
18:48:29 Walt-Disney you need, you must understand that 90% of all species are dead
18:48:39 Walt-Disney and the samething will happen to humans
18:48:45 Walt-Disney 90% of us will die
18:48:48 Walt-Disney disapear..
18:48:59 Walt-Disney
18:49:07 Walt-Disney only the apex will survive
18:49:09 Walt-Disney and..
18:49:20 Walt-Disney we will fight for security in the posthuman world
18:49:31 James R. Hughes: -- I hope to be amoungst the survivors
18:49:37 Walt-Disney computer virus is a problem again
18:49:44 Walt-Disney yeah
18:49:47 Walt-Disney we hope so
18:49:52 Walt-Disney it depends on you
18:50:10 Walt-Disney the choice etc..
18:50:28 Walt-Disney drexler and merkle new passion is security lol
18:50:31 James R. Hughes: -- I tend to think the cyborgenics will precede full uploading
18:50:37 James_Swayze Well, that's really a false argument WD. It's like saying most of all people that ever lved have died there's no way to stop that.
18:50:53 Walt-Disney ok but
18:51:04 Walt-Disney why dinosaur died and mamanlian survived ?
18:51:09 Walt-Disney now what about humans and cars ?
18:51:15 Walt-Disney do you think cars will survive to humans ?
18:51:29 James_Swayze I think technology will allow us to change our destiny, I.E. we make our own destiny, ven stopping big dirt clods from space hitting us.
18:52:20 Walt-Disney I think we simply become a small but powerful chip able to store data and able to be in cars, in robots, in airplanes etc..
18:52:32 Walt-Disney cars, robots, airplanes, bikes, moto are animals
18:52:45 James R. Hughes: -- The developement curve in biotech is far ahead of space tech
18:53:11 Walt-Disney we will put our chips into rockets even
18:53:14 Jonesey life expectancy rate of increase has not increased much James R. Hughes: --
18:53:28 James_Swayze Well, the only constant is change and you could say that homo sapiens are already extinct and that homo sapien sapien technoralis has replced them, Around a million ears ago.
18:53:31 Jonesey esp max lifespan, lifespan of the top 10%
18:53:47 Jonesey huh? homo sapiens sapiens is only 50k ish yrs old
18:53:49 James R. Hughes: -- Augmenting our intelligence will entail synergism with electronic intelligence
18:54:43 James R. Hughes: -- CR is the only to date way to alter lifespan
18:54:57 James_Swayze Well, sometinmes they refer to us as just sapiens, I was being loose
18:54:57 Rotaerk by how much does CR supposedly alter lifespan
18:55:33 Walt-Disney humans will disapear
18:55:40 Walt-Disney and cars will survive with human chips
18:55:50 James_Swayze yes, but humans will replace them
18:55:52 James R. Hughes: -- Stemcell implantation, and nanotechnology will also change lifespan in the nesxt 2 decades conservatively
18:55:53 James_Swayze get it?
18:56:23 Walt-Disney what
18:56:26 James_Swayze I expect to become a post human but I'm still going to think of myself as part of humanity
18:56:45 Walt-Disney to become a post human is difficult to see
18:56:50 James R. Hughes: -- CR can add 10-20% if practiced lifelong.
18:56:54 Walt-Disney you need to go cryonics of course
18:56:56 James_Swayze human-ness is a way of being
18:57:25 James_Swayze I agree Jim
18:57:33 James R. Hughes: -- The gist is that we need to become more intelligent
18:57:39 James_Swayze Nano and bio sooner than people hink
18:57:52 James_Swayze nd in ways not so terribly technical
18:58:13 James_Swayze There's a new cancer treatment slated for 2005 trials
18:58:20 Walt-Disney so you think you wont love to be a robots ?
18:58:26 Walt-Disney and always caring the same body ?
18:58:26 James_Swayze It's a two part nano tech treatment
18:58:40 Walt-Disney I would love to change body like I change my clothes
18:58:41 James_Swayze It has the potential to end cancer as we know it
18:59:46 James R. Hughes: -- Radio-immunotherapy using avidin-biotin
18:59:51 Walt-Disney My body would become a car, a robot (many), a moto, an airplane..
18:59:51 Walt-Disney lol
18:59:56 Walt-Disney forget bio
19:00:06 Walt-Disney do you agree with me ?
19:00:07 James_Swayze I like my body WD, I want it to look and feel, regardless of what it's made of for a very long time. When I stroke a womans thigh in 3505 i want to feel flesh, not aluminum.
19:00:42 Walt-Disney well