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[porthose]

there are so many on the market with the majority containing aluminium/alcohol etc. but the so called natural ones aren't anywhere near as effective as the others.

does anyone know of a good natural 'body odour basher' that doesn't have any harmful ingredients in it and is effective, plus good for the skin?

[sentinel]

Hi Porto

Absolutely no idea if they have it down under but I've been using the same deodorant for about 18 years ( Christ that makes me feel old). It's called Natrel (that's the range) and it is supposedly unisex but some fragrances are much more girly than a lot of chaps would be comfortable with. I have stuck with Xores. i've tried right guard and sure but they just make me smell weird by the afternoon, and I've recently tried the Lynx range and some smell nice but I still sweat like a horse using them - albeit a sweet smelling sweaty horse [lol]

You get a few anti -deodorant types here and elsewhere but it's a majorly subjective area.


Sentinel

[eternaltraveler]

I need to find a new deodorant myself. I've developed an allergy to the one I've always used (old spice).

[ajnast4r]

i use two...

i use those thai crystals when i get out of the shower, and then when that dries i put on a coat of old spice red zone... after that im pretty much invincible


i would imagine you could put on a coat of the thai crystal, then a more natural deodorant like toms of maine or aubrey organics.

[lunarsolarpower]

I wish they'd get busy and invent an RNAi deodorant product that would simply prevent the formation of the stuff that feeds the smelly microbes.

[sentinel]

i use those thai crystals

Hmm, one of my consultants uses those, are they as/more effective than a spray deo?

..and what's with the Old Spice guys!? That's what I used to by my Dad for Christmas when I was 10! Has it come around again or is it really mainstream in the US?

[caston]

I wish they'd get busy and invent an RNAi deodorant product that would simply prevent the formation of the stuff that feeds the smelly microbes.

What about a protein dissolving enzyme based deodorant?

[eternaltraveler]

Hmm, one of my consultants uses those, are they as/more effective than a spray deo?

..and what's with the Old Spice guys!? That's what I used to by my Dad for Christmas when I was 10! Has it come around again or is it really mainstream in the US?

it's pretty main stream. They have a lot more than just their original "old spice" scent.

Anyway. I can't use it )

[ajnast4r]

Hmm, one of my consultants uses those, are they as/more effective than a spray deo?

..and what's with the Old Spice guys!? That's what I used to by my Dad for Christmas when I was 10! Has it come around again or is it really mainstream in the US?

imo, its very effective... but i sweat too much to use it on its own.

and old spice makes more 'modern' scents now.

[freedom40]

I use a mineral salt spray from Lafe's. It works much better than the crystal rocks, which only work for a few hours at a time.

Ingredients: Purified water, Natural mineral salts, Aloe vera, Potassium Alum, Organic lavender, essential oil.

[freedom40]

By the way, I also shave my arm pits which significantly helps prevent the build up of odors.

[ajnast4r]

I use a mineral salt spray from Lafe's. It works much better than the crystal rocks, which only work for a few hours at a time.

Ingredients: Purified water, Natural mineral salts, Aloe vera, Potassium Alum, Organic lavender, essential oil.

isnt the whole idea behind using a 'natural' deodorant usually to avoid aluminum?

[freedom40]

Yeah, I wondered about that myself. I don't know if this is correct, but here is a statement from one of the manufacturer's websites:

Aluminum compound, such as aluminum chlorohydrate or aluminum zirconium, which is very soluble, is used as an antiperspirant, that compound is readily absorbed, Once in the body, the aluminum portion of the molecule ionizes, forming free or radical aluminum (AI+++). This passes freely across cell membranes, and forms a physical plug, that when dissolved is selectively absorbed by the liver, kidney, brain, cartilage and bone marrow. It is this concentration of aluminum that has been the source of concern in the medical community and has prompted the research being done on ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE and BREAST CANCER victims, Potassium alum molecules have a negative ionic charge, making it unable to pass through the cell wall. THEY ARE NOT ABSORBED. This is why we recommend the use of Deodorant stones they are safe to use and will not cause high levels of ALUMINUM in your systems. ALUM and ALUMINUM are two different substances, with distinct chemical signatures. They posses different chemical properties which create different chemical attributes.

The chemical formula for potassium alum is K2SO4AI2(SO4)324H2O. Potassium alum is a colorless substance that forms octahedral or cubic crystals.

Bauxite is the ore from which alum is draw. It is formed by the rapid weathering of granite rocks in warm, humid climates and can be purified and converted directly into alum.

Potassium alum is soluble in seven times its weight of water at room temperature and is very soluble in hot water. When crystalline potassium alum is heated, some of the water of hydration becomes chemically separated, and the partly dehydrated salt dissolves in this water, so that the alum appears to melt at about 90 degrees C (approx.. 392 degrees F), potassium alum swells up, loses all water, and becomes a basic salt called burn alum. Potassium alum has a density of 1.725.

[luminous]

I use Adidas anti-perspirant with cotton. It contains no aluminum and works great at controlling both odor and wetness. The cotton in it absorbs perspiration.

Ingredients:

Propylene Glycol, Water (aqua), Sodium Stearate, Fragrance (Parfum), Palmitic Acid, Cyamopsis Tetragonoloba Gum (Guar), Stearic Acid, Sorbitan Sesquioleate, Triclosan, Sucrose Stearate, Xanthan Gum, Allantoin, Sodium Citrate, Cyclopentasiloxane, Myristic Acid, Gossypium Herbaceum Powder (Cotton), Silica Dimethyl Silylate, Ethyhexylglycerin, Acacia Senegal Gum, D&C Violet 2 (CI60730)

[edward]

same here Adidas deodorant/antiperspirant, the only effective antiperspirant I have found that doesnt have aluminum

[Ghostrider]

Yeah, I wondered about that myself. I don't know if this is correct, but here is a statement from one of the manufacturer's websites:

Aluminum compound, such as aluminum chlorohydrate or aluminum zirconium, which is very soluble, is used as an antiperspirant, that compound is readily absorbed,  Once in the body, the aluminum portion of the molecule ionizes, forming free or radical aluminum (AI+++).  This passes freely across cell membranes, and forms a physical plug, that when dissolved is selectively absorbed by the liver, kidney, brain, cartilage and bone marrow.  It is this concentration of aluminum that has been the source of concern in the medical community and has prompted the research being done on ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE and BREAST CANCER victims,  Potassium alum molecules have a negative ionic charge, making it unable to pass through the cell wall.  THEY ARE NOT ABSORBED.    This is why we recommend the use of Deodorant stones they are safe to use and will not cause high levels of ALUMINUM in your systems.  ALUM and ALUMINUM are two different substances, with distinct chemical signatures.  They posses different chemical properties which create different chemical attributes.

The chemical formula for potassium alum is K2SO4AI2(SO4)324H2O.  Potassium alum is a colorless substance that forms octahedral or cubic crystals.

Bauxite is the ore from which alum is draw.  It is formed by the rapid weathering of granite rocks in warm, humid climates and can be purified and converted directly into alum.

Potassium alum is soluble in seven times its weight of water at room temperature and is very soluble in hot water.  When crystalline potassium alum is heated, some of the water of hydration becomes chemically separated, and the partly dehydrated salt dissolves in this water, so that the alum appears to melt at about 90 degrees C (approx.. 392 degrees F), potassium alum swells up, loses all water, and becomes a basic salt called burn alum.  Potassium alum has a density of 1.725.

Dammit, I just picked up some Adidas deodorant a couple weeks ago dirt cheap...now I know why. It has aluminum zirconium in it. Maybe I throw it out.

[sentinel]

Interesting.. So which is the "safe" form of Adidas Deo ie without aluminum zirconium. (the things we do to smell nice, or not smell at all ...). I was going to pick some up tomorrow and I'll check the ingredients.

[Ghostrider]

Mine says right on the front that it contains a compound made of 4 words, the first two are aluminum zirconium

[luminous]

Interesting.. So which is the "safe" form of Adidas Deo ie without aluminum zirconium. (the things we do to smell nice, or not smell at all ...). I was going to pick some up tomorrow and I'll check the ingredients.

The safe kind is Adidas with cotton. The product says right on the cap that it contains zero aluminum.

[salyavin]

What do you think of Lavilin? Any good? Also aluminum free.

[Harvey Newstrom]

What do you think of Lavilin? Any good? Also aluminum free.

Lavilin works by killing the bacteria that cause body odor. Sounds good. But it isn't perfect. It can't kill all of the bugs. It kills the ones that are easier to kill, leaving the more resistant ones to breed. After a while, you have bread a colony of resistant bugs that are immune to your deoderant. This is the typical pattern for any long-term use of any antibiotic.

[Athanasios]

i use two...

i use those thai crystals when i get out of the shower, and then when that dries i put on a coat of old spice red zone... after that im pretty much invincible

i would imagine you could put on a coat of the thai crystal, then a more natural deodorant like toms of maine or aubrey organics.

Yeah, I use the crystal as well. First I use an alcohol gel with aloe, then the crystal, then a squirt of cologne.

Edited by cnorwood, 26 December 2007 - 03:28 PM.

[FunkOdyssey]

I've tried MANY natural deodorants and none of them worked well and/or did not smell good. Deodorants are one item where it is clear that the massive R&D efforts of big companies translate to more effective products. However, I eventually ran into an exception that became my favorite:

http://www.terressen...m/bath.html#deo

Its a little expensive at $10 a bottle but each bottle lasts 2-3 months and it works amazingly well, better than the old spice red zone that I was using before. I still smell nice after working out and sweating profusely with this stuff. I use the Zen Spice variety.

[mustardseed41]

This is the best deodorant I have ever used. It last all day and then some.
https://www.organicd...2oz-p-7582.html
BAC sells it for less.

[zorba990]

This is the best deodorant I have ever used. It last all day and then some.
https://www.organicd...2oz-p-7582.html
BAC sells it for less.

When I need to use deodorant I use one of the Aubrey organics.
But like most of the essential oil based products the deodorant quality
doesn't last long. My trick is to first use a tiny amount of Desitin under
each pit before applying the deodorant. This seems to last all day.
Doesn't do anything for sweating but I don't like the idea of blocking sweat.