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[naapi]

Hello,

June is slowly coming to an end, so the first quarter of competition for the FAH prize is ending as well.

Looking at current stats and points progression it looks as if the main prize will be awarded to myself (although I would very much like to still lose!).

The first quarter's prizes amounted to 405$ in total. Let me propose the following:

1) I hereby resign from receiving the main prize of 150$.
2) I ask the organizers to roll the 150$ forward to add to the previously announced total of 405$ for a new total prize of 555$ to be awarded in Jul-Sep quarter.
3) Let me propose the following split of the prize for the next quarter:

Rank:
1st...........200$
2nd..........125$
3rd............70$
4th.............40$
5-12th.......15$

4) Of course, if the organizers feel it is appropriate to split the total otherwise – I fully support whatever will be decided.

Awaiting your comments,

Maciek.

Edited by naapi, 13 June 2008 - 10:46 AM.

[dnamechanic]

Looking at current stats and points progression it looks as if the main prize will be awarded to myself...

The data supports this. It appears unlikely that another another competitior would exceed your PPD by a sufficient amount to win first prize in the remaining days of this competition.

... Let me propose the following:

1) I hereby resign from receiving the main prize of 150$.
2) I ask the organizers to roll the 150$ forward to add to the previously announced total of 405$ for a new total prize of 555$ to be awarded in Jul-Sep quarter.

Thank you, naapi, for your generosity.

The current prize is jointly funded by the Immortality Institute and The Longevity Meme. It is their perogative to decide the allocation of unused funds.

In principle, I support your generous offer to increase prize amounts. Although probably, one should consider what would be the prize amounts would be in the event that you did not win first prize in a future competition. The default would seem to be that the prize would revert back to original amounts? If so, this could make the publicity/announcement seem inconsistent. Also, how would this be viewed by the team contributors/competitiors?

3) Let me propose the following split of the prize for the next quarter:

Rank:
1st...........200$
2nd..........125$
3rd............70$
4th.............40$
5-12th.......15$

This seems reasonable and is consistent with existing structure.

[Mind]

I would also like to thank you for your generous offer naapi. I think the 2nd quarter prize structure you suggest would work.

dnamechanic brought up the point about publicity. Because of your offer, we could advertise a top prize of $200 (and so on down the line) for the next quarter, then the amounts would drop again for the third quarter (with out any further inputs). Alternatively we could put $50 dollars extra into each of the next 3 quarters to keep the amount more even through the end of the first year of competition, at which point there will be an evaluation of the success of F@H (and perhaps more prize money allocated). Just thinking out loud here. I would be fine either way. I will ultimately defer to your preference naapi since you are donating the money.

[naapi]

Hello,

I think the point about the potential negative publicity, if the prize total drop in subsequent quarters is a valid one - I did not think about this consequence. Also, the data that I posted elsewhere in this forum shows that while we're on a good track to hit rank 125 within a year, hitting rank 100 is only likely in more distant future.

Let me then pledge the following:
1) Let's add this quarter's 1st prize to przes of the 2nd quarter of the competition and split the total as indicated in my previous post.
2) I hereby pledge to support the FAH prize by the end of year one with 150$ per quarter from my private funds.
3) I also withdraw from the competition in subsequent quarters. I hope this may result in competition heating up and our team hitting 100 much earlier than data suggests now. Note, that this means that I will still fold for TLM, but I am not entitled to the prize (the current status of user TMichael and maestro949 as per rules of the competition).

I hope this changes are all fair to the competitors, the publicity of the team etc. Let me know, if there are any further questions or doubts.

Best,

Maciek.

Edited by naapi, 15 June 2008 - 08:50 PM.

[dnamechanic]

Let me then pledge the following:
1) Let's add this quarter's 1st prize to przes of the 2nd quarter of the competition and split the total as indicated in my previous post.
2) I hereby pledge to support the FAH prize by the end of year one with 150$ per quarter from my private funds.
3) I also withdraw from the competition in subsequent quarters. I hope this may result in competition heating up and our team hitting 100 much earlier than data suggests now. Note, that this means that I will still fold for TLM, but I am not entitled to the prize (the current status of user TMichael and maestro949 as per rules of the competition).

Maciek.

Fantastic, Maciek!

You probably noticed there is a Board Meeting today and this is one of the topics.

Everyone can observe/listen to the board meeting at the Immortality-Update from the U-stream site.

Your generosity is much appreciated and will almost certainly encourage others.

[frenchhorn1]

I don't want to give up my $10.
- BUT -
I think there should be more advertising for the prize. This should bring a ton more people to the competition.

Also, there is something more enticing about a $250 prize.


Here's what I'm running:
(2) amd x2 4200 winxp SMP client - avg 650ppd each
1 older laptop winxp standard service client - 150ppd
1 amd x2 4200 with (2) ati 3850's running gpu 2 client winxp - 2400ppd
1 q6600 linux dual smp clients - ppd = we'll see... I guess 3000ppd+

[Mind]

I think there should be more advertising for the prize. This should bring a ton more people to the competition.

Me too. I am considering purchasing some google content ads (maybe $50) to run during the last couple days of June and into early July. I was thinking they should hit gamer websites or blogs, since those folks seem to have the most computing horsepower.

[dnamechanic]

I think there should be more advertising for the prize...

Me too. I am considering purchasing some google content ads (maybe $50) to run during the last couple days of June and into early July. I was thinking they should hit gamer websites or blogs, since those folks seem to have the most computing horsepower.

Good idea.

Gamer websites would be good for advertising, also the many computer related websites (gamers also frequent these). Many computer hobbyists maintain the latest, and fastest, hardware to run games. Computer hobbyists also enjoy tweaking and running a myriad of synthetic benchmark programs. These benchmark programs run for many hours and users report results at various sites, then start the tweak/run cycle again. The F@H client serves as a good benchmark, via points per day (PPD) and it also accomplishes something (non-synthetic). There seems to be a trend for hobbyists to gravitate towards F@H for these reasons.

Also, another group of sites that might be good for advertisement are the 'Deal sites', such as:

-Fatwallet.com FatWallet forums

-Slickdeals.net Slickdeals forums

A 'hot deal' will quickly spread throughout the computer hobbyist and gamer forums. Often the 'hot deal' can involve saving only a few dollars and still be considered very hot. These sites cover almost all kinds of deals, but the deals spreading into the computer-related forums often involve computers.

[Mind]

I purchase some content ads through google. $50 worth. Not sure how long they will last. I used key words/phrases that included server farms, overclocking, GPU, CPU, performance, etc...

[dnamechanic]

I purchase some content ads through google.

Great! A good experiment.

I will be quite interested in your evaluation of the service.

[frenchhorn1]

I further propose a further increase in the prize.

I don't know how to fund these things, but I'm an idea man. Not my job for the funding.

Ok! Here is what I propose for the prizes. Let me know what yall think:

1st place = $1.57
2nd place = $10,578.62
3rd place = $5,000
4th place = $2,500
5-12th places = $100 each

I think this might go over very well. Chungenhung might disagree, but we live in a democracy where one man's vote doesn't count.

[naapi]

Hahaha

You made my day, frenchhorn

M.