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[brokenportal]

I dont mean to be obnoxious about this AMEX thing, but I just wanted to emphasize it again and say that its now or never. The rate of nomination increase is beginning to stall. Do all you can and then some to get more nominations for this now or we will have a slim chance of winning some money.

Do something now and we will probably win it.

Do you want to look back on this in the future and think, "That 100,000 dollars sure did go a long ways, I sure am glad we got that done." or do you want to look back and think, "I sure wish we could have gotten mfuri to develop this year, that sure would have been a huge exponentially expanding catalyst."

The current team of people working on it have all but drained their contact lists. We need a new team of people to jump on this and look for more recruiters and ideas and nominations and carry it forward.

Im looking in to taking out an ad. Im putting in at least 100 dollars toward it. If anybody wants to contribute and collaborate with that then let us know in the forums and at the special meetings for this every day at 4pm cst time.

[dnamechanic]

I dont mean to be obnoxious about this AMEX thing,...

Sometimes is best to tell it like it is.

...but I just wanted to emphasize it again and say that its now or never.

Sometimes an opportunity presents... and then passes.

In hindsight, a missed opportunity can be obvious.

The rate of nomination increase is beginning to stall. Do all you can and then some to get more nominations for this now or we will have a slim chance of winning some money.

Your message causes me to consider what more can be done.

There is certainly more to be done.

Do something now and we will probably win it.

Yes, this MFURI-AMEX initiative is very winnable.

Do you want to look back on this ...that sure would have been a huge exponentially expanding catalyst."

This MFURI initiative could be a giant step towards reaching critical mass for the life extension movement.

MFURI has appeal to the general population.

Take a look at the competition (tracked here).

More than half the competition's projects involve young people. Society favors efforts aimed towards or involving young people. Students are not necessarily "children", but they have the appeal of youth.

Help the Undergrads Fight "fill in your acronym here", has appeal.

This project has potential to open doors, and minds.

...a new team of people to jump on this and look for more recruiters and ideas and nominations and carry it forward.

Now is the time to bring on strong reinforcements.

Im looking in to taking out an ad. Im putting in at least 100 dollars toward it. If anybody wants to contribute and collaborate with that then let us know in the forums and at the special meetings for this every day at 4pm cst time.

That sounds very good, BP.

I will help you in your efforts.

This project is an excellent opportunity for ImmInst to flex it's advocacy muscle.

"Immortality Institute - Advocacy & Research For Unlimited Lifespans"

Leaders of ImmInst, examine this opportunity.

Members of ImmInst, examine this opportunity.

Do not let it pass.

[lunarsolarpower]

I'm looking in to taking out an ad. Im putting in at least 100 dollars toward it. If anybody wants to contribute and collaborate with that then let us know in the forums and at the special meetings for this every day at 4pm cst time.

Can you pencil out for me how various financial outputs in this direction would pay off? For example someone could create a task on mturk that paid a nominal sum for those who went and voted. There are also forums that have valuable currency that could be offered as inducement. However I would like to see the math that makes this a better use of funds than just donating directly toward MFURI.

[lunarsolarpower]

To be more clear, how much can we afford to pay per sign-up and have this pay off? $0.02? $0.10? $0.50? $10?

[brokenportal]

Im not sure, does anybody have good math on this?

I would think that if we could pay people to do this, that 1000 votes would be a number we needed to get us up there in the second round. We can probably scrape up at least $300.00. If we can get 1000 for that then I would think it would be worth the gamble. Its not a very long shot. 1000 extra votes would make the odds pretty dang good.

[lunarsolarpower]

Here's the first piece needed. Next someone needs to see how fast the leaders and chief gainers are picking up votes to estimate where they'll end up.

[dnamechanic]

...how fast the leaders and chief gainers are picking up votes to estimate where they'll end up.

This chart can potentially help evaluate the situation.

Most of the competition is shown graphically below. Each curve represents a competitor. The vertical scale shows the number of Nominations. the horizontal scale is shown in days.

The MFURI initiative is shown with a heavy blue line.

The actual data used are three sets from this thread beginning here.

A power curve extrapolation was used to try to predict change over the next few days.

Three colors are used to signify competition:

Red (solid) - Could be difficult
Green (solid) - Can pass (Go MFURI)
Gray (dashed) - Easy Money

 MFURI_1e_16005_image001.gif   17.91KB   56 downloads

With increased effort all but about five of red competitors could be behind MFURI, by the end of day, September 1.

With a concerted effort, MFURI could press the top competitors.

Edited by dnamechanic, 30 August 2008 - 02:43 PM.

[brokenportal]

How do you do these things? This is an awfully informative graph.

We can recruit all day on the 1rst too. Also we will need to continue on for round two.

I think some of the top projects, the first one at least, may be using an adder program. I think that some of them may get disqualified, so thats good news. I mean, the first place team only has like 14 comments, we have more comments than any team Ive seen. Thats really good news. I think we may be the most authentically supported.

The first place team also has criticism, I saw them addressing it. All they are for is helping kids who can get around and stuff, but have to eat through a tube. Thats terrible and all, but aging is way worse.

Looking at the jump of that 5th place team I would suspect that they went out and bought an adder in the last days too, but maybe not.

Go to the other teams discussion forums and mention undergrad. Just work the word undergrad in however you can. Do this especially for teams that wont make the cut. It will get the word into their mind come voting time. It has a lot of benefits.

[brokenportal]

Here is an excellent listing of aging related organizations.


http://www.nia.nih.g...intdisplay.aspx

[Mind]

I was under the impression that only 2,000 nominations was needed in order to be considered for a grant, however, it seems lately the indication is that the AMEX board will look at the top vote getters, (top 10, top 20, top 30???) and decide who gets the money. Is there a cut-off? Will the fact that UFARD got 55 pages of comments matter. It should.

[brokenportal]

The site says that only the top 25 will be considered. The 2,000 nominations part however might not be concrete, I cant find that in the page, it was mentioned before in the Methuselah bulletin, I think thats where that came from. Although we are set to get that anyways and so it isnt a worry.

The 55 pages of comments should matter. I was reading through the faq and stuff on the members project page and it was saying that projects that get positive discussion will be taken into account. It also mentioned that they will be looking at which project has an organization behind it that is best equiped to handle the project, for example, has shown fiscal responsability in the past.

It cannot however, I beleive, be a project that is already solidified, like, give money to the poor through the united way or something. The site also seems to indicate that projects that have gotten out the most word via the members projects widgets and things will be considered for that too.

There are quite a few dynamics to this that we could harness to win. It is worth reading through the site. If we all focus on a couple we can keep a dynamic presence in this contest and be closer to getting that cash prize for this cause.