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#1 drmz

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 10:15 AM


Interesting article :

Vitamin D Deficiency Study Raises New Questions About Disease And Supplements

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ScienceDaily (Jan. 27, 2008) — Low blood levels of vitamin D have long been associated with disease, and the assumption has been that vitamin D supplements may protect against disease. However, this new research demonstrates that ingested vitamin D is immunosuppressive and that low blood levels of vitamin D may be actually a result of the disease process. Supplementation may make the disease worse.

In a new report Trevor Marshall, Ph.D., professor at Australia’s Murdoch University School of Biological Medicine and Biotechnology, explains how increased vitamin D intake affects much more than just nutrition or bone health. The paper explains how the Vitamin D Nuclear Receptor (VDR) acts in the repression or transcription of hundreds of genes, including genes associated with diseases ranging from cancers to multiple sclerosis.

"The VDR is at the heart of innate immunity, being responsible for expression of most of the antimicrobial peptides, which are the body’s ultimate response to infection," Marshall said.

"Molecular biology is now forcing us to re-think the idea that a low measured value of vitamin D means we simply must add more to our diet. Supplemental vitamin D has been used for decades, and yet the epidemics of chronic disease, such as heart disease and obesity, are just getting worse."

"Our disease model has shown us why low levels of vitamin D are observed in association with major and chronic illness," Marshall added. "Vitamin D is a secosteroid hormone, and the body regulates the production of all it needs. In fact, the use of supplements can be harmful, because they suppress the immune system so that the body cannot fight disease and infection effectively."

Marshall's research has demonstrated how ingested vitamin D can actually block VDR activation, the opposite effect to that of Sunshine. Instead of a positive effect on gene expression, Marshall reported that his own work, as well as the work of others, shows that quite nominal doses of ingested vitamin D can suppress the proper operation of the immune system. It is a different metabolite, a secosteroid hormone called 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D, which activates the VDR to regulate the expression of the genes. Under conditions that exist in infection or inflammation, the body automatically regulates its production of all the vitamin D metabolites, including 25-hydroxyvitamin D, the metabolite which is usually measured to indicate vitamin D status.

Vitamin D deficiency, long interpreted as a cause of disease, is more likely the result of the disease process, and increasing intake of vitamin D often makes the disease worse. "Dysregulation of vitamin D has been observed in many chronic diseases, including many thought to be autoimmune," said J.C. Waterhouse, Ph.D., lead author of a book chapter on vitamin D and chronic disease.

"We have found that vitamin D supplementation, even at levels many consider desirable, interferes with recovery in these patients."

"We need to discard the notion that vitamin D affects a disease state in a simple way," Marshall said. "Vitamin D affects the expression of over 1,000 genes, so we should not expect a simplistic cause and effect between vitamin D supplementation and disease. The comprehensive studies are just not showing that supplementary vitamin D makes people healthier."

Journal reference: Marshall TG. Vitamin D discovery outpaces FDA decision making. Bioessays. 2008 Jan 15;30(2):173-182 [Epub ahead of print] Online ISSN: 1521-1878 Print ISSN: 0265-9247 PMID: 18200565

#2 pro-d

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 11:22 AM

I said my piece about this on another thread, but just to summarise my views:

*Low levels of vitamin D are pandemic. Not everyone with low vitamin D is ill, they just have more potential to.
*Marshall's research is based on his own molecular model (software theory) that has no unanimous support from other molecular biologists.
*Ingested vitamin D3 is exactly the same as sunshine (bar the tan).
*Trevor Marshall is not an MD. Most people with his qualifications rarely use the Dr. tag, and he's rarely explicit about this. Further info on his background is at: http://impnvestigator.chat.ru/
*Supplemental D has been used for decades but commonly at negligible doses with no regard for blood levels.
*1,25D levels can also be elevated due to poor calcium. Calcium (usually with vitamin D) restores this to normal levels. Meaning elevated 1,25D is not always due to macrophages spitting out masses of 1,25D.
*Some (but not all) people on the Marshall Protocol report improvement or being cured. However we have no idea if this is due to the influence of antibiotics alone (which many mainstream physicians haven't disputed) as it is required to lower vitamin D on the MP.
*Other protocols like the Wheldon and FWIW Zero Based Protocol report success along *with* restoration of optimal D. MP is popular due to controversy rather than patient satisfaction.
*Ken Lassesen reports that of all protocols, via patient surveys, that the MP is least successful. http://www.bmj.com/c.../329/7457/112-b
*Many MP 'facts' are theories which are intelligently debunked here: http://stuff.mit.edu...on/universe.htm

Edited by pro-d, 28 January 2008 - 11:27 AM.

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#3 balance

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 01:05 PM

The only thing I'm worried about is whether this will be ammunition for the anti supplement pharma dogs and lobbyists.. It's like, when something gets too good, and therefore too famous, they try to screw it over back into the shadows... That's why quality supplementation will never be for everybody, only for the select few who are aware about this, did the research, and keep their mouth relatively shut about it... as in, telling their loved ones, but not the media. It's a sad world where what is good, is not as important as what is profitable.

#4 Matt

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 02:15 PM

Yawn.... rubbish.

#5 resveratrol

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 02:57 AM

I said my piece about this on another thread, but just to summarise my views:

*Low levels of vitamin D are pandemic. Not everyone with low vitamin D is ill, they just have more potential to.
*Marshall's research is based on his own molecular model (software theory) that has no unanimous support from other molecular biologists.
*Ingested vitamin D3 is exactly the same as sunshine (bar the tan).
*Trevor Marshall is not an MD. Most people with his qualifications rarely use the Dr. tag, and he's rarely explicit about this. Further info on his background is at: http://impnvestigator.chat.ru/
*Supplemental D has been used for decades but commonly at negligible doses with no regard for blood levels.
*1,25D levels can also be elevated due to poor calcium. Calcium (usually with vitamin D) restores this to normal levels. Meaning elevated 1,25D is not always due to macrophages spitting out masses of 1,25D.
*Some (but not all) people on the Marshall Protocol report improvement or being cured. However we have no idea if this is due to the influence of antibiotics alone (which many mainstream physicians haven't disputed) as it is required to lower vitamin D on the MP.
*Other protocols like the Wheldon and FWIW Zero Based Protocol report success along *with* restoration of optimal D. MP is popular due to controversy rather than patient satisfaction.
*Ken Lassesen reports that of all protocols, via patient surveys, that the MP is least successful. http://www.bmj.com/c.../329/7457/112-b
*Many MP 'facts' are theories which are intelligently debunked here: http://stuff.mit.edu...on/universe.htm


Thanks for the helpful post, pro-d!

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#6 tham

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 09:41 AM

Vitamin D and TB :


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