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[KidCharlemagne]

I've been taking Source Naturals Elan Vital (Life Force). It seems like AOR has token amounts of many supplements. Can someone argue why AOR is better? I don't know enough about this to compare. Here is SNEVs formula:


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"The Vital Essence of Life" Antioxidant Multiple

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Serving Size: 6 Tablets
Servings per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Calories 15
Calories from Fat 5
Total Fat 1 g <2%
Saturated Fat 1 g 4%
Sodium 15 mg <2%
Total Carbohydrates 1 g <2%
Vitamin A (as beta carotene 25,000 IU & palmitate 10,000 IU) 35000 IU 700%
Vitamin C (as magnesium, manganese & zinc ascorbates, and ascorbyl palmitate) 2244 mg 3740%
Vitamin D-3 (as cholecalciferol) 400 IU 100%
Vitamin E (as natural D-alpha-tocopheryl) 600 IU 2000%
Thiamin (vitamin B-1) 100 mg 6670%
Riboflavin (vitamin B-2) 100 mg 5900%
Niacin (40 mg, Niacinamide 60 mg & Inositol Hexanicotinate 100 mg) 200 mg 1000%
Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine HCl) 100 mg 5000%
Folate (as folic acid) 800 mcg 200%
Vitamin B-12 (as cyanocobalamin) 200 mcg 3330%
Biotin 500 mcg 170%
Pantothenic Acid (as calcium D-pantothenate) 100 mg 1000%
Calcium (as calcium succinate, carbonate & malate) 200 mg 20%
Iron 590 mcg 4%
Iodine (as potassium iodide) 150 mcg 100%
Magnesium (as magnesium ascorbate, oxide & succinate) 300 mg 80%
Zinc (as zinc monomethionine [OptiZinc®] & ascorbate) 30 mg 200%
Selenium (as L-selenomethionine & sodium selenite) 250 mcg 360%
Copper (as copper sebacate) 1 mg 50%
Manganese (as manganese ascorbate) 300 mcg 570%
Chromium (as chromium polynicotinate [ChromeMate®] & picolinate) 300 mcg 250%
Molybdenum (as molybdenum chelate) 300 mcg 400%
Potassium (as potassium succinate & alpha-ketoglutarate) 100 mg 2%
N-Acetyl Cysteine 600 mg *
Succinic Acid 300 mg *
Quercetin 300 mg *
Milk Thistle Seed Extract Yielding 224 mg Silymarin 270 mg *
Ascorbyl Palmitate 200 mg *
NAG (N-acetyl glucosamine) 200 mg *
Choline (as bitartrate) 100 mg *
Inositol (as hexanicotinate & inositol) 100 mg *
Grape Seed Extract (Proanthodyn™) 100 mg *
DMAE (as bitartrate) 100 mg *
N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine 80 mg *
Co-Enzyme Q10 40 mg *
Alpha-Lipoic Acid 40 mg *
Ginkgo Leaf Extract (50:1) 24% Flavoneglycosides 40 mg *
Bilberry Fruit Extract (25% anthocyanidins) 20 mg *
Boron (as boron chelate) 2 mg *
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[krillin]

I've been taking Source Naturals Elan Vital (Life Force). It seems like AOR has token amounts of many supplements. Can someone argue why AOR is better?

This covers most of the issues.

http://www.aor.ca/in...05_article1.pdf

[Bghead8che]

Here is why I would avoid the Elan Vital Multiple:

Too much Vitamin A.
Too much Vitamin C (IMHO)
Too much Vitamin E w/out the proper 8 forms.
Vitamin B6 is a cheap form and on the high side.
Vitamin B12 is a cheap form.
Iron should be avoided in most cases.
Zinc at 30mg a day may be a tad high depending on diet.
A few others are at or near the daily UL.

-Brian

[VictorBjoerk]

Is Mivitotal a good supplement to use?are there any scandinavian people here who have used it.It should cover most of the overall requirements as far as I understand.

[tham]

These are the three which I usually suggest to friends
on a moderate budget .

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http://www.vrp.com/p...ter.aspx?c=3340

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[edward]

all I have to say is niacinamide, niacinamide, niacinamide ... and/or nicotinamide

I know this thread has been beat to death but everytime someone posts another multi I look it up and I always see the same thing on the label, that is, my number 1 reason for rejecting a multi... The version of Niacin that has been proven to be a potent INHIBITOR of SIRT1, one of the key genes related to aging.

So as it stands the only two companies that make Multis without niacinamide/nicotinamide are AOR and Supernutrition USA

[jCole]

Was taking Lifepak Nano, but it's too expensive and I'm not 100% convinced of their "nano" claims. Mainly just taking ON Opti-men for now.... thinking or trying out Total Balance Men's Plus from XtendLife

[Bghead8che]

Was taking Lifepak Nano, but it's too expensive and I'm not 100% convinced of their "nano" claims. Mainly just taking ON Opti-men for now.... thinking or trying out Total Balance Men's Plus from XtendLife

Lifepack is actually a "decent" multi that is way overpriced and uses several vitamin forms that are subpar. Much better bang for the buck out there. I will admit their website is steller and their marketing is top notch however.

-Brian

Edited by Bghead8che, 09 August 2008 - 05:29 PM.

[jCole]

Was taking Lifepak Nano, but it's too expensive and I'm not 100% convinced of their "nano" claims. Mainly just taking ON Opti-men for now.... thinking or trying out Total Balance Men's Plus from XtendLife

Lifepack is actually a "decent" multi that is way overpriced and uses several vitamin forms that are subpar. Much better bang for the buck out there. I will admit their website is steller and their marketing is top notch however.

-Brian

Yeh, I had a friend of mine suck me into the whole Lifepak Nano thing.... with their scanner and what not to measure the cartinoids in my skin. I can't say one way or the other if taking Lifepak had any noticble benefits....bought two paks and stopped there, too expensive.

[Dmitri]

I take GNC mega men maximum nutrition formula, I used to take Centrum, but I grew tired of swallowing pills so I switched to GNC which contained more vitamins/minerals, antioxidants and it came in a powdered form (it contains no iron which is good). The only other Multi I've heard of from your list is LEF (but they're too expensive and I'm merely a student) and I recently found out about Ortho Core from this website.

GNC mega men maximum nutrition formula (Chocolate Powder)

Vitamin A (as Vitamin Palmitate): 5,000 IU
Vitamin C (as Calcium ascorbate): 300 mg
Vitamin D (as Cholecalciferol): 800 IU
Vitamin E (as Vitamin E Acetate): 30 IU
Thiamin (as thiamin HCl): 25 mg
Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2): 25 mg
Niacin (as Niacinamide): 25 mg
Vitamin B-6 (Pyridoxine HCI): 25 mg
Folic Acid: 400 mcg
Vitamin B-12 (as Cyanocobalamin): 25 mcg
Biotin: 300 mcg
Pantothenic Acid (as calcium pantothenate): 25 mg
Calcium (as calcium citrate calcium carbonate dicalcium phosphate): 500 mg
Magnesium (as Magnesium Oxide): 100 mg
Zinc (as Zinc Oxide): 15 mg
Selenium (as Selenium Amino Acid Chelate): 70 mcg
Copper (as Copper Gluconate): 2 mg
Manganese (as Manganese Sulfate): 2 mg
Chromium (as chromium amino acid chelate): 120 mcg
Molybdenum (as molybdenum amino acid chelate): 75 mcg
alpha-Lipoic Acid: 25 mg
--Antioxidant Fruit and Vegetable Blend: 105 mg
saw palmetto powder
plum powder
wild blueberry powder
cherry powder
parsley leaf powder
kale leaf powder
spinach leaf powder
Wheat Grass Juice Powder
cranberry powder
strawberry powder
orange powder
raspberry powder
Brussels Sprouts Powder
asparagus powder
blackberry powder
Broccoli Powder
bilberry powder
Grape Skin Extract
Beet Juice Powder
Cauliflower Powder
apricot powder
papaya powder
Carrot Powder
cabbage powder
garlic powder
grape powder
pineapple powder
Fiber Blend (2.5 g Inulin & 2.5 g FOS): 9.75 g
Inulin
FOS (Fructooligosaccharides)
Gum Arabic
soy fiber
Cellulose Gum
Resistant Starch
essential fatty acid blend
High Oleic Sunflower Oil
Borage Oil
Lutein: 950 mcg
Lycopene: 950 mcg
Astaxanthin: 50 mcg
Zeaxanthin: 50 mcg
L-Arginine (as DiArginine Malate): 1,000 mg
Policosanol: 10 mg
Phytosterols (as beta sitosterol campesterol and stigmasterol): 800 mg
Green Tea Extract (Decaffienated): 10 mg
Inositol: 10 mg

Calories: 90
Calories from fat: 20
Total Fat: 2 g
Saturated Fat: .50 g
Cholesterol: 20 mg
Sodium: 50 mg
Potassium: 40 mg
Total Carbohydrate: 12 g
Dietary Fiber: 5 g
Sugars: 1 g
Protein: 6 g

Edited by Dmitri, 11 August 2008 - 01:23 AM.

[Advanc3d]

what are peoples views on NOW ADAM™ Superior Men? how does it compare to Ortho-Core

[jCole]

Personally I'm not a fan of GNC products. In terms of body building supps, they are the lowest of the low quality.

[Dmitri]

Personally I'm not a fan of GNC products. In terms of body building supps, they are the lowest of the low quality.

I don't take their body building stuff I'm only taking their multi vitamin/mineral powder (which I posted previously).

Also, why do people hate them so much? It's been around for 73 years they must be doing something right?

[lgreen]

hello everyone,
I take one called "Every Woman 2" made by New Chapter brand. It is organic, cultured whole food and makes me feel good! I have used this product for 5 years now and it is great: new chapter -----they have a complete line of supplements.

The philosophy they use is: wisdom of nature and sustainable, organic and sensible. They also believe in science and optimal nutrition, for the whole body------holistic approach; not a magic bullet kind of thing.


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Edited by niner, 12 August 2008 - 03:33 AM.

[HereInTheHole]

Other. Not a multivitamin. I pick the individual vitamins and minerals and other supplements. This way, I have more control over dosage and form.

[jCole]

Personally I'm not a fan of GNC products. In terms of body building supps, they are the lowest of the low quality.

I don't take their body building stuff I'm only taking their multi vitamin/mineral powder (which I posted previously).

Also, why do people hate them so much? It's been around for 73 years they must be doing something right?

There's much better alternatives with a lot less fillers and junk in them.

Edited by jCole, 12 August 2008 - 02:45 AM.

[Dmitri]

Personally I'm not a fan of GNC products. In terms of body building supps, they are the lowest of the low quality.

I don't take their body building stuff I'm only taking their multi vitamin/mineral powder (which I posted previously).

Also, why do people hate them so much? It's been around for 73 years they must be doing something right?

There's much better alternatives with a lot less fillers and junk in them.

Can you elaborate? In the regimen sub forum I posted the nutrition info from the supplement I use (GNC) and someone mentioned the calcium, Niacin (B-3) and B-12 were not in the best forms, but I did some research online which says the forms GNC uses are good.

So, can you offer a more detailed explanation as to why the product is junk?

[jCole]

GNC little to no quality control over their own products, due to they don't make quite a few of their own supplements. They private package a lot of their supplements. Do you want your supplements made by the lowest bidder?

For instance, their multi is made by Jamieson, who is not know for their quality control. But all in all, GNC private labels most of their products to save on their bottom line.

Other companies do this, such as Walmart.

They've also been under investigation from the FDA/FTC a few times for shady practices with their supplements.

But setting all that aside, just do a bit of research and compare their ingredients to any of the supplements recommended on this forum. You're wasting your money. You can find much cheaper alternatives that are of much higher quality and bio-availability.

I've read they've cleaned up their act a lot of the past few years, but I've personally had bad experiences with their over-priced products in the past... and since their are much better alternatives and much better prices, I see 0 reason why to use any of their supplements.


Use Google if you want to find more information. (there's a few websites I believe still up, as to why GNC is bottom of the barrel in the fitness/nutrition world)

Edited by jCole, 12 August 2008 - 04:26 AM.

[Dmitri]

GNC little to no quality control over their own products, due to they don't make quite a few of their own supplements. They private package a lot of their supplements. Do you want your supplements made by the lowest bidder?

For instance, their multi is made by Jamieson, who is not know for their quality control. But all in all, GNC private labels most of their products to save on their bottom line.

Other companies do this, such as Walmart.

They've also been under investigation from the FDA/FTC a few times for shady practices with their supplements.

But setting all that aside, just do a bit of research and compare their ingredients to any of the supplements recommended on this forum. You're wasting your money. You can find much cheaper alternatives that are of much higher quality and bio-availability.

I've read they've cleaned up their act a lot of the past few years, but I've personally had bad experiences with their over-priced products in the past... and since their are much better alternatives and much better prices, I see 0 reason why to use any of their supplements.


Use Google if you want to find more information. (there's a few websites I believe still up, as to why GNC is bottom of the barrel in the fitness/nutrition world)

Can you recommend a cheaper alternative that has a powder form? LEF monthly supply costs twice as much as GNC, so that was one of the reasons I opted for GNC (I'm still a college student). Also, Centrum seems to be the multi that most doctors recommend, but the brand contains iron and they only sell their products in tablet form which is a problem.

[Dmitri]

GNC little to no quality control over their own products, due to they don't make quite a few of their own supplements. They private package a lot of their supplements. Do you want your supplements made by the lowest bidder?

For instance, their multi is made by Jamieson, who is not know for their quality control. But all in all, GNC private labels most of their products to save on their bottom line.

Other companies do this, such as Walmart.

They've also been under investigation from the FDA/FTC a few times for shady practices with their supplements.

But setting all that aside, just do a bit of research and compare their ingredients to any of the supplements recommended on this forum. You're wasting your money. You can find much cheaper alternatives that are of much higher quality and bio-availability.

I've read they've cleaned up their act a lot of the past few years, but I've personally had bad experiences with their over-priced products in the past... and since their are much better alternatives and much better prices, I see 0 reason why to use any of their supplements.

Use Google if you want to find more information. (there's a few websites I believe still up, as to why GNC is bottom of the barrel in the fitness/nutrition world)

Does your silence mean there isn't a better priced multi powder alternative? If so I guess I'll stick with GNC for now.

[Dmitri]

I forgot to mention that I take the GNC multi because it doesn't contain those newer chemicals which have not had enough research on humans. For example someone posted a multi they use that contains Coq10 and according to the mayo Clinic those who do vigorous exercise should not be taking coq10; I love exercising so that type of supplement would not be for me. There are also people who have had problems with resveratrol, so I don’t want to risk it until there are more studies to prove it’s effectiveness or discard any long term side effects.

The only new ones I see on the product I use are alpha lipoid acid, but it looks like they played it safe with it’s dosage (25 mg); it’s recommended to take between 50-100mg since people have reported side effects at higher dosages. Although, I have to admit that the 1,000 mg of Di-arginine Malate had me a bit worried, but I have not read anything bad about it online all I found was that it is extremely useful in enhancing the immune system and that its important in the repair of tissue as well as the formation of collagen and building of new bone and tendons

[Advanc3d]

what wrong with NOW ADAM
how does it compare to Ortho-Core
NOW ADAM 2 month supply costs $15.
Ortho-Core 1 month supply costs $40.

i see it a total waste of money

[krillin]

I forgot to mention that I take the GNC multi because it doesn't contain those newer chemicals which have not had enough research on humans. For example someone posted a multi they use that contains Coq10 and according to the mayo Clinic those who do vigorous exercise should not be taking coq10; I love exercising so that type of supplement would not be for me.

Head over to Pubmed, search for (ubiquinone OR "coenzyme q10") AND exercise and come to your own conclusion. Mainstream medicine sites are highly unreliable sources of information about supplements. My anecdotal experience is that it reduces muscle soreness.

[Dmitri]

I forgot to mention that I take the GNC multi because it doesn't contain those newer chemicals which have not had enough research on humans. For example someone posted a multi they use that contains Coq10 and according to the mayo Clinic those who do vigorous exercise should not be taking coq10; I love exercising so that type of supplement would not be for me.

Head over to Pubmed, search for (ubiquinone OR "coenzyme q10") AND exercise and come to your own conclusion. Mainstream medicine sites are highly unreliable sources of information about supplements. My anecdotal experience is that it reduces muscle soreness.

The Mayo Clinic is one of the top ranked medical facilities, so it's not simply a mainstream medicine site. However, I will search pubmed; I'll have to look through my bookbag for my university code so I can access the papers, so I'll let you know later on what I find.

[DaffyDuck]

For example someone posted a multi they use that contains Coq10 and according to the mayo Clinic those who do vigorous exercise should not be taking coq10.

What the Mayo clinic says is, "Organ damage due to lack of oxygen/blood flow during intense exercise has been reported in a study of patients with heart disease, although the specific role of CoQ10 is not clear. Vigorous exercise is often discouraged in people using CoQ10 supplements."

The last sentence should probably read, "Vigorous exercise is often discouraged in people with heart disease."

[mustardseed41]

GNC is where the unimformed shopper shops. Even with that card thing their always pushing, better prices and quality is just a Google away.
Think http://iherb.com http://beyondacenturyonline.com

[Dmitri]

For example someone posted a multi they use that contains Coq10 and according to the mayo Clinic those who do vigorous exercise should not be taking coq10.

What the Mayo clinic says is, "Organ damage due to lack of oxygen/blood flow during intense exercise has been reported in a study of patients with heart disease, although the specific role of CoQ10 is not clear. Vigorous exercise is often discouraged in people using CoQ10 supplements."

The last sentence should probably read, "Vigorous exercise is often discouraged in people with heart disease."

I see a similarity between supplement companies, big phram and the FDA. Pharmaceutical companies produce drugs for certain illnesses the FDA then evaluates their effectiveness (not safety) for a few years, when positive results are consistently obtained they approve the drug for distribution. Now flash forward 10 to 15 years later and we see some products being recalled because while the drugs proved to be effective in treating the illnesses their long term use tended to produce life threatening side effects. I see the same with supplement companies, a new chemical shows promising and positive results in clinical trials and they immediately begin manufacturing mega doses of these new supplements without even considering what the long term use will yield.

What I like about the mayo clinic is that while they do mention the positive studies they don't make any claims, they often times mention that more studies need to be conducted before anything concrete can be said about the substance use in humans.

[krillin]

I see a similarity between supplement companies, big phram and the FDA. Pharmaceutical companies produce drugs for certain illnesses the FDA then evaluates their effectiveness (not safety) for a few years, when positive results are consistently obtained they approve the drug for distribution. Now flash forward 10 to 15 years later and we see some products being recalled because while the drugs proved to be effective in treating the illnesses their long term use tended to produce life threatening side effects. I see the same with supplement companies, a new chemical shows promising and positive results in clinical trials and they immediately begin manufacturing mega doses of these new supplements without even considering what the long term use will yield.

You are misinformed about the drug-approval process. Phase I doesn't even look at efficacy. They pay healthy people to take the drugs and they establish safety and doses to try. Phase II looks at efficacy and continues to assess safety. In phase III they use a large group to clearly establish efficacy. They can't catch rare side effects because that would make the process even more expensive and slow.

[Dmitri]

I see a similarity between supplement companies, big phram and the FDA. Pharmaceutical companies produce drugs for certain illnesses the FDA then evaluates their effectiveness (not safety) for a few years, when positive results are consistently obtained they approve the drug for distribution. Now flash forward 10 to 15 years later and we see some products being recalled because while the drugs proved to be effective in treating the illnesses their long term use tended to produce life threatening side effects. I see the same with supplement companies, a new chemical shows promising and positive results in clinical trials and they immediately begin manufacturing mega doses of these new supplements without even considering what the long term use will yield.

You are misinformed about the drug-approval process. Phase I doesn't even look at efficacy. They pay healthy people to take the drugs and they establish safety and doses to try. Phase II looks at efficacy and continues to assess safety. In phase III they use a large group to clearly establish efficacy. They can't catch rare side effects because that would make the process even more expensive and slow.

They don't do enough for safety though which is why we see so many recalls years later. Gwen Olsen worked for big pharm and left because she was disgusted by their corruption, she said that in meetings people would refer to the FDA as "our friend". When she left she decided to write a book about what she experienced (I learned about her in Health class). This is why I said the FDA and Big pharm are more concerned about effectiveness than safety.

Edited by Dmitri, 15 August 2008 - 01:10 AM.