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[brokenportal]

The 72 team is made of the list in this topic here. It is some of, 72 of, the direct action topics and topics that tend to get more action thoughts stirring for the indefinity cause. This will help create more action discussion and keep more action discussion visible in the active topics section of the forums and at the tops of individual forums.


Team captain: (now recruiting)
Team members:

There is only one task you need to do to be a 72 team member.
1. Team members comment on a minimum of 2 topics in the list per week and add their numbers to the weekly box in a response. Any two random topics will do. Make note of their list numbers.


To join, add your name to the newest week box in the comments in this team topic responses. The week box will be in quotes, have this heading and have names in it with numbers of topics responded to by the team members for the week like this example:

Week #

(team member name, #, #)
(team member name, #, #)

The team captain will add your name to the team wiki and to the topic here.

The work of every squad in every battle helps win the war. Thanks a million for joining!



1. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26269 complete opposite of immisnt, A good topic for giving and getting perspectives on why people like the “Voluntary Human Extiction Movement” are wrong. Contrast and Controversy is a good way to highlight the points of a cause.

2. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=23332 recruit drive, This is a simple way to help get more members, respond to this and it will help inspire others to join it,

3. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=21310 life extension mouse tests at home, This is a good possible way for imminst to get in on the science of aging more instead of so much of just the exposure. This project could be worked out, it needs discussion.

4. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26475 chat room going 24/7, Comment in this topic to bump this ad and the usefulness of this chat room into the active topics to attract more.

5. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=15882 contacting celebritites, This is a great idea to keep in discussion, every time you ad something it bumps it into the active topics and keeps the ideas rolling.

6. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26512 in case you didn’t notice the 2008 progress, This is an inspiring topic about the progress that we have made for 2008, we want to inspire members here as much as possible, so adding comments to this topic is a great way to remind people of the momentum that is on our side. People aren’t going to jump on a train that they don’t see go by.

7. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=23400 recruit drive part two, comments, This is the topic where people can comment about the recruit drive, the other topic is for joining it.

8. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=23780 a pro aging trancists secret plea, This topic has songs with life extension themes provided, when you watch the first two with the themes they provide an awesome inspirational boost of energy for doing more stuff to help get indefinite life extension in our life times.

9. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26177 one eyed life extensionist in the land of the blind, T his topic points out that the world of pro aging trancists depends on our life extension vision to rally them so we can all save all of our lives.

10. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26593 imminst calendar, This is a good discussion on a good and simple project. Im ordering some calendars, bump this topic and inspire others to also.

11. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26181 kennedies rice stadium moon speech, This topic has the video and transcript of this amazing speech that was given before going to the moon. Its parallels with life extension run deep. Its an excellent sourse of inspiration to keep you going and or get you going to help more with the cause. Rewording it in a life extension theme would be very hard hitting indeed.

12. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=25018 longevity communities network needs a name, We need input on this name for this community. This topic is very important because once we have that name many of us can then order the thousands of yard signs and bumper stickers and stuff we are waiting to order, we cant though until we have a name we can use. As affirmed around here, “Immortality” isn’t the kind of word you want to be trying to put on old peoples or anybodies yard signs.

13. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=21092 the life span twine,
This is an excellent new concept that Mind found someplace that allows us to network, life extension articles and sites with other health sites to get the cause into more of the internets pipelines. Its also part of a project team that anybody can join on line 39 of the projects list.

14. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=25969 healthy years.com site, This topic talks about the new life extension site that has a system set up for getting people to canvass their neighborhoods selling people on the cause.

15. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26439 help the national academy of sciences,

16. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=23875 help with immortality blogs

17. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=25487 what are some of the things you say to chip away at the pro aging trancists? This topic is helping to compile a list of things for a quiz and a training course to help life extensionists get through to pro aging tancists. This is big!

18. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=23909 coalition to extend life spans meeting, get in on this meeting, bump this to keep the idea flowing in peoples minds. Join the promotional team, or sign up as secretary.


19. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=19584 where would you invest 10 million in life extension? This discussion helps people align their perspectives on where we need to get with this cause.

20. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26287 never say die, longevity is gaining main stream respect, More opitimism for the cause, comment on this to keep the optimism flowing around here. The optimist puts more effort into things.

21. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26268 great opportunity to help plug the longevity dividend, This article, book, piece whatever you call it is a well written piece that could probably win some kind of award. Help keep awareness of it flowing. Comment on it today!

22. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26044 copy of I have a dream with life extension theme This is a copy of the famous and extremely inspirational “I have a dream” speech with a life extension theme written in to it. Read this for inspiration on helping and on writing future speeches for the cause. Commenting will help others notice this concept and get them thinking about it.

23. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=14681 simultaneous world wide life extension flyer posting day, This project is a great idea. Keep it on peoples minds by commenting. There is a project going for it in the projects list, soon to be in the imminst wiki.

24. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=25619 use the forums to browse topics more, This topic addresses the idea that life extensionists ignore radical life extension topics when they use the active topics button as their primary source of browsing. In addition to this list here, dig into the forums. We need the good stuff to stay on the surface lest we all get buried.

25. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=21233 how do I contribute to ending aging? A member asked this question, it’s a good thread to discuss this and bring awareness to it. It links to a projects that is working to list, so far 30 or so, things that any volunteer can do and check off the list.

26. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=18143 making widgets for imminst Widgets are a great way to handle projects and information on the internet. We need more for imminst. Respond to this topic to get it into the active topics so that somebody who knows how to make them may have a better chance of seeing this. Success usually comes when preparation meets luck.

27. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=21740 death counter, This is an motivational topic, death abounds us yet we are not all at the front lines fighting tooth and nail yet. Help inspire more to do that by responding to this so that more may see it.

28. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=22930 lapel pin for immortality Heres a good idea, discussion in here would be worth more than discussion in 100 supplements or off topics discussions.

29. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=24883 essay writing contest, Heres a topic that can inspire more people to write essays and speeches for the cause. There are many projects in the projects list that that need lists of speeches ready. Like the campaign bus project for example. We need something to say when we tour. This is important and something that many of the skilled writers around here are needed for. Inspire them to do this by commenting to make this topic visible.

30. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=22964 speeches about life
extension Same as above, another good discussion on it.

31. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=22799 support imminst blogs Bump this topic and then go and comment on some blogs to drive up their popularity and exposure in google. Also add other ideas for drawing attention to our life extension blogs. There is projects about most of this stuff, including this in the life extension projects list.

32. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=24253 how do you bring life extension up to every day people? This discussion is a great way to help our fellow life extensionists combat the pro aging trance.

33. http://www.imminst.o...?showtopic=9299 the way to make life extension happen fast? This discussion talks about building a projects list. It helped lead to the projects list we have going. Its worth some added discussion and perspective, even though its already going.

34. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=23913 what other life extension communities are you a part of? This would be useful info to know. Please respond.

35. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=22126 is imminst the best life extension and supps forums? Somebody asked this question, positive reviews in this topic will continually put it in the active topics and give good review for the web site to newcomers.

36. http://www.imminst.o...?showtopic=2383 best way to life extension poll, regenerative, agi, pills or yoga? Poll Heres a good poll to see where peoples heads are at. We are starting a similar poll or questionnaire coming up here as part of a big project this year.

37. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=19120 do you think youll make it? Poll Lend your optimism to this interesting and worth while discussion to keep thoughts for this cause stirring.

38. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=23493 gathering interest from seniors clubs Heres a good idea, keep this discussion going.

39. http://www.imminst.o...?showtopic=4832 why doesn’t kurzweil donate more? Another great discussion.

40. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=23588 make the life extension cause the beneficiary of your life insurance This is a great idea, comment it to bump it into the active topics so that more people may see it and consider it. I know I will do it if I get a life insurance policy.

41. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=23055 how many of you expect to die? Good discussion.

42. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=21137 aubrey degrey interview
Comment this so newbies can watch this vital meme strengthening stuff.

43. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=22517 life expectancy went up four months in one year Heres lending to some more of that vital optimism stuff.

44. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=22366 getting more lurkers to become members This is a good idea, keep the discussion going.

45. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26164 a formula for starting projects, Comment on this, there couldn’t be much more of a better thing you could do than comment on this. This is one of the seeds of an upcoming life extension exposure expedition extravaganza explosion, Wow that’s a lot of ex’s.

46. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26601 what is a project to get life extension exposure that you would like to see get going or get going more? Add an idea to this. When your building a bridge you need planks, and ideas here are the planks that are going to help span the gap to get the life extension cause from here to all of the worlds air waves.

47. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=25927 the heart of the cause, the d day invasion section, and less than one page of topics while sups has like 500 pages? This outlines how this is a war, and how we must fight, it outlines how we need more effort here now and contrasts it with how much more effort is being put into far more inconsequential things around here. Comment on this to help get more people thinking in these terms. Wars were fought with lives for far less, we need to fight with our time because the rewards are far more.

48. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=25940 volunteer wiki, add your name to this list of volunteers and comment here, it will help inspire more to do so, and what could be more important or more simple than that? You don’t even have to do anything after you sign up if you don’t want to.

49. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=23779 do you have the gift of speech? Give speeches, join the project in the projects list for it.

50. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=19538 finding our brethren in the wild, help find more of us who are awakened from the pro aging trance. The world depends on our vision to rally them, so we need all hands on deck.

51. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=19411 script for imminst promo video, Help get this video going, it will help inspire people who come to imminst.

52. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26358 Aubrey deGrey interviewed By Eliezer Yudkowsky These videos are priceless watch and comment on them often. So they sink in more for you and so that more people will spot them in the active topics.

53. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=20345 deGrey on Colbert

54. http://www.imminst.o...p?showtopic=830 who wants to live forever? Poll This poll provides great food for thought. Feed others brains by commenting so it goes to the active topics. The newbie fish in the pond eat this stuff up and it helps them grow into big memeing life extensionists.

55. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=25614 living forever, will it make you happier? A good topic for giving and getting perspective on why it will of course make you happier

56. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26051 people don’t want to cure aging! A good topic for sharing techniques on getting through to people in the pro aging trance

57. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26487 dying, will it make you happier? A good topic to state reasons why of course death wont make you happy.


58. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26379 how will we stop the government? A good topic for helping quash this unreasonable fear.

59, http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=25908 What do these philosophical quotes mean to you? A topic with some hard hitting zingers that will help motivate you and or others to help more with life extension now.

60. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26225 a calendar spanning your whole life span to try to help shake off the indifference people may have to helping with life extension now.

61. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=23399 what would you do if you were the only person on earth but still had all the tools you wanted? A good discussion for getting perspective on what it means to be alive other than socializing.

62. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26114 conceptualizing the depth of existence and its importance through contemplation of a fractal


63. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=23778 life extension as the meaning of life, a discussion that led to a reaffirmation that the big 8 are probably the purpose of life and hence for life extension

64. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26065 discussion of Mark Geddes Chapter of the Scientific Conquest of Aging “Introduction to Immortalist Morality”

65. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=24616 aging is.. what is your one liner on it?

66. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=25456 Life is a game/pointless, a good topic for pointing out why its not pointless

67. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=24388 the adventure paradox, discussion on why we can still run risk when we live indefinently, and not encase ourselves in bubbles.

68. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=25378 the gurus laid it out for us, keep these topics on the surface and we keep ourselves on the surface and we do that one response after another, like one foot after another, a billion miles? We’ll get there that way.

69. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=18158 getting ending aging on the shelves, a call to arms, heres a great idea, also part of the campaign bus project in the projects list, I think its line 12.

70. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=14747 why you should upgrade to full membership, heres a good topic, help get others to do this by commenting on it periodically so it gets more visibility in the active topics.

71. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=14732 life extension promotion flyer designs, Comment to get this valuable resource more visibility to the hundreds of members who filter through imminst, many times seeing no active radical life extension topics in the active topics list. Lets show them what we are made of, help bump topics like this.

72. http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=26040 and these three forums in general, go to these three forums in general too. It took me 5 hours to list all these, they aren’t all the good ones, this is only your starter kit.

Edited by brokenportal, 01 April 2009 - 09:24 PM.

[Cyberbrain]

I'm in!

[brokenportal]

I'm in!

Nice, we are on our way, even just a few more would help a lot.

Some rules of thumb for this list:

One of the main points is to keep topics that are going to help get thoughts flowing about radical life extension progressing and into the active topics.

List your topics of particular interest by number in a response here, and most importantly, keep this topic bumping too.

Respond to 3 or 4 or 5 random topics from this list whenever you come to imminst.

A response doesnt have to neccessarily be something deep. Something as simple as quoting a topic or response with "I agree" will help keep the topic bumping into the active topics section and be valuable.

Edited by brokenportal, 01 January 2009 - 08:24 PM.

[justinb]

I am in too!

[brokenportal]

Thanks a million, hopefully a million years. Be sure to sign up in the imminst wiki too. The sign up link is highligted in blue up there under the video.

Watch that video in context with the theme in the intro to the 72 team project. Its powerful and true.

[Cyberbrain]

Come on people, join!

Edited by Kostas, 05 January 2009 - 01:39 AM.

[Vgamer1]

How about starting a new thread that will show up in "active topics" that has a link to this one. I noticed that some sub-forums don't show up in the "active topics" section no matter how active they are. If we post a link to this thread in a few of the more active forums, maybe it would get more exposure.

And I don't think brokenportal should do all the postings, no offense. It would be good for people to see "average" members participating actively and maybe inspire them to post in the other threads.

What do you guys think? Which sub-forums should this topic also be in that would show up in the "active topics" page?

Edit: I just noticed that me posting this bumped the thread up on the active topics page. I dunno, maybe my idea is bunk and people should just reply to this thread more?

Edit2: Sorry, one more suggestion. Maybe if the list were shortened, broken up, or categorized it would be less intimidating?

Or maybe there could be another link next to the "active topics" link that took you to a "radical life extension only threads" page. How about that?

I'm mostly just brainstorming here, but I think maybe more should be done than just having this thread sit here and get replied to once a week. I'll keep bumping it in the meantime if you guys do too.

Edit3: Brokenportal, if you need help categorizing I think that could be a good start. Let me know and I'll help you do that.

Edited by Vgamer1, 08 January 2009 - 04:59 AM.

[brokenportal]

How about starting a new thread that will show up in "active topics" that has a link to this one. I noticed that some sub-forums don't show up in the "active topics" section no matter how active they are. If we post a link to this thread in a few of the more active forums, maybe it would get more exposure.

And I don't think brokenportal should do all the postings, no offense. It would be good for people to see "average" members participating actively and maybe inspire them to post in the other threads.

What do you guys think? Which sub-forums should this topic also be in that would show up in the "active topics" page?

Edit: I just noticed that me posting this bumped the thread up on the active topics page. I dunno, maybe my idea is bunk and people should just reply to this thread more?

Edit2: Sorry, one more suggestion. Maybe if the list were shortened, broken up, or categorized it would be less intimidating?

Or maybe there could be another link next to the "active topics" link that took you to a "radical life extension only threads" page. How about that?

I'm mostly just brainstorming here, but I think maybe more should be done than just having this thread sit here and get replied to once a week. I'll keep bumping it in the meantime if you guys do too.

Edit3: Brokenportal, if you need help categorizing I think that could be a good start. Let me know and I'll help you do that.

You dont think that I should do all the posting where? The point of this topic is to get more people to post in action orientated life extension topics more.

They are working on another active topics link like the one you suggest. We dont know if it is possible to do or when it might get here though.

All you have to do for this list is just respond to like 3 random topics whenever you would other wise be browsing the active topics list. The ones you bumped have already helped it alot. This team is more like a jump start than a permanent thing. It can be brought back whenever a jump start is needed. 3 or 4 people bumping these topics a day would create a ton more radical life extension action orientated discussion in the active topics of imminst.

That discussion is the blood that courses through the veins energizing this life extension titan. It will get more ideas progressing, and more life extension pioneer minded people that come passing through imminst to stay, it will bump the inertia of more peoples nascent ideas and help them increase in their velocity towards eureka moments and good ideas and serendipity. It will create a fertile atmosphere for forming project teams and an imminst 300, and it will do a variety of other positive things.

[Vgamer1]

OK, I apologize. I guess I misunderstood the purpose of this project.

I like the idea of a secondary active topics page though. When is that expected to be implemented?

[brokenportal]

OK, I apologize. I guess I misunderstood the purpose of this project.

I like the idea of a secondary active topics page though. When is that expected to be implemented?

To ad on to the list, just add the links in a response here. If you want to bring more attention to them then maybe make them bigger and change their color or something. If we get this 72 team going though, it will create enough action to the point where people will start searching the forums themselves instead of the active topics, so it will bring more action to all the topics over all too.

[Vgamer1]

It seems that these 72 threads gets overpowered by the other topics here. Maybe a better strategy would be to recruit more members that are interested in these radical topics? I've discussed with brokenportal about how to partially accomplish this. It would take a bit of effort on the part of the active members. I don't know... What do you think portal?

[brokenportal]

It seems that these 72 threads gets overpowered by the other topics here. Maybe a better strategy would be to recruit more members that are interested in these radical topics? I've discussed with brokenportal about how to partially accomplish this. It would take a bit of effort on the part of the active members. I don't know... What do you think portal?

Recruiting more members is a great way to do that, yes, but to recruit more members we have to get more current members interested in radical action projects that will work to recruit them. To get them interested in them though we need to get more people to discuss the topics like the ones in this list. If a handful of people make it a priority to comment on topics in this list every time they come to imminst rather than the active topics section then it should help tremendously. More new members and lurkers will see them, and the people that surf imminst primarily through the active topics section will be more inclined to get in on them too. Its a win win win situation. This is a very simple way to get this done, but if you just want to work on a project to accomplish that end then I am up for that too. Im working on editing, merging, purging, organizing the remainding projects with a few people, and then converting the list over to its official spot this month. Once that is done then I am going to help build as many teams as we can and then work with one or two of them on the projects our teams think are best.

[Vgamer1]

Recruiting more members is a great way to do that, yes, but to recruit more members we have to get more current members interested in radical action projects that will work to recruit them. To get them interested in them though we need to get more people to discuss the topics like the ones in this list. If a handful of people make it a priority to comment on topics in this list every time they come to imminst rather than the active topics section then it should help tremendously. More new members and lurkers will see them, and the people that surf imminst primarily through the active topics section will be more inclined to get in on them too. Its a win win win situation. This is a very simple way to get this done, but if you just want to work on a project to accomplish that end then I am up for that too. Im working on editing, merging, purging, organizing the remaining projects with a few people, and then converting the list over to its official spot this month. Once that is done then I am going to help build as many teams as we can and then work with one or two of them on the projects our teams think are best.

I disagree. I think that getting members interested in radical life extension is a great idea, but I think you're putting the horse before the carriage so to speak. You said yourself:

To get them interested in them though we need to get more people to discuss the topics like the ones in this list.

If we had more people in the forums who were interested in radical life extension, then it would inspire more involvement. So I see recruitment as the best option. I'm talking about recruiting people who are already interested in these topics, they're just in the wrong place. For example, they could be discussing in a philosophy forum about how the greatest goal of a human being would be to extend its life indefinitely. Then that person might be laughed at by the other members, but he would be embraced at imminst. I'm saying we should go scouting for these people on those forums. We can't know what we'll find unless we try.

Is anybody in this thread interested in this project? It's not really on the google doc (it's kind of a side note of the CPAT project, but I think it could be it's own thing).

Portal? Would you mind if I started a thread to get this project started? Or would you rather do it more formally. I'd like to approve this with you first because I want your support and endorsement before I move forward, but I think I could take this on pretty much on my own. I would just need at least one "partner" who is interested and dedicated in this project. The more the better though, up to maybe five or six total.

Any preliminary interest in here? If you'd like more details I'll put them here and probably post a thread soon enough.

[brokenportal]

So you want to go into other forums and places and look for life extensionists and try to get them to come here? Thats a great idea, but what Im saying is that their are over 8,000 members here. Take a couple thousands off for different reasons and we still have thousands of members and more coming in every day. Dont you think that there are those amongst them that will discuss radical life extension action more if we do something like this 72 team project?

If you want to spend time in other forums now, or add it as a project to LEEEP and do it after its fully developed then I am down with either of those too. We can go into some other forums and chat if you want. Your right its an effective strategy and one that people around here have been working with on and off over the years.

You say Im putting the horse before the cart, but if we are all horses, well the horses are here, what Im trying to do it put more carts out there and try to get more horses inclined to hook up to them.

If your looking for my support before you start an action topic then you certainly have it. I support most every radical action orinetated topic. This reminds me kind of how I was back in the day. I was hesitant to post a lot of action orientated topics because I didnt get a lot of support, but the more people like me and you and all the great radical action orientated people that show out around here to work with this kind of stuff, the more it will inspire, encourage and help others like you, and how I used to be, along too. The greater our numbers, the greater our variety of skill sets and the greater our number of man hours and resource pools and connections and insights and ideas.

Recruiting more members is a great way to do that, yes, but to recruit more members we have to get more current members interested in radical action projects that will work to recruit them. To get them interested in them though we need to get more people to discuss the topics like the ones in this list. If a handful of people make it a priority to comment on topics in this list every time they come to imminst rather than the active topics section then it should help tremendously. More new members and lurkers will see them, and the people that surf imminst primarily through the active topics section will be more inclined to get in on them too. Its a win win win situation. This is a very simple way to get this done, but if you just want to work on a project to accomplish that end then I am up for that too. Im working on editing, merging, purging, organizing the remaining projects with a few people, and then converting the list over to its official spot this month. Once that is done then I am going to help build as many teams as we can and then work with one or two of them on the projects our teams think are best.

I disagree. I think that getting members interested in radical life extension is a great idea, but I think you're putting the horse before the carriage so to speak. You said yourself:

To get them interested in them though we need to get more people to discuss the topics like the ones in this list.

If we had more people in the forums who were interested in radical life extension, then it would inspire more involvement. So I see recruitment as the best option. I'm talking about recruiting people who are already interested in these topics, they're just in the wrong place. For example, they could be discussing in a philosophy forum about how the greatest goal of a human being would be to extend its life indefinitely. Then that person might be laughed at by the other members, but he would be embraced at imminst. I'm saying we should go scouting for these people on those forums. We can't know what we'll find unless we try.

Is anybody in this thread interested in this project? It's not really on the google doc (it's kind of a side note of the CPAT project, but I think it could be it's own thing).

Portal? Would you mind if I started a thread to get this project started? Or would you rather do it more formally. I'd like to approve this with you first because I want your support and endorsement before I move forward, but I think I could take this on pretty much on my own. I would just need at least one "partner" who is interested and dedicated in this project. The more the better though, up to maybe five or six total.

Any preliminary interest in here? If you'd like more details I'll put them here and probably post a thread soon enough.

[Vgamer1]

So I started an item in the google doc (item 37.4) that has a rough outline of my idea. Really all I'm looking for are a few members (at least one or two) who are interested in this project. We could literally get started tomorrow. That along with your endorsement would let me feel confident enough to start a thread within the next couple days...

I want to keep it a bit on the informal side because I don't think this requires a large commitment. I just need a little help from another member or two so that I'm not alone in lurking and posting in a foreign forum. Almighty has already expressed interest in doing this with me...

What do you say portal? Should I post a thread? I'd like to run it by you before I do of course, and I'd also like to see interest among at least one or two imminst members before I do. Is there anybody in particular that you think would be interested and capable?

[Cyberbrain]

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[brokenportal]

Vgamer, we added a version of that project to the Internetworking Team that is running now here. You certainly dont have to run any ideas past me but you are more than welcome to.

Kostas, Vgamer too, thanks for the bump. We need more people to join this team. If your thinking about it, please do. At first I thought this team could use as many members as it could get, and it can, but it has the potential to be wildly successful if even just a handful of people sign up and commit to it. A few have and it has worked like a charm the times they have used it so far.

[Vgamer1]

Vgamer, we added a version of that project to the Internetworking Team that is running now here. You certainly dont have to run any ideas past me but you are more than welcome to.

Kostas, Vgamer too, thanks for the bump. We need more people to join this team. If your thinking about it, please do. At first I thought this team could use as many members as it could get, and it can, but it has the potential to be wildly successful if even just a handful of people sign up and commit to it. A few have and it has worked like a charm the times they have used it so far.

One thing I'm trying to get going now is getting together a list of videos and articles that support the cause. For example, the many ustream videos, TED videos, or other articles that members post every day. We could compile that list on the wiki page or in a thread. I'm thinking of starting a thread titled something like "Post your favorite imminst videos and articles here" and then take those contributions and add them to a wiki page. I'll probably do this very soon. What do you think?

[brokenportal]

One thing I'm trying to get going now is getting together a list of videos and articles that support the cause. For example, the many ustream videos, TED videos, or other articles that members post every day. We could compile that list on the wiki page or in a thread. I'm thinking of starting a thread titled something like "Post your favorite imminst videos and articles here" and then take those contributions and add them to a wiki page. I'll probably do this very soon. What do you think?

Ill respond to this in the Internetworking Team topic to keep this topic on track. Thanks for the ideas and helping bump this topic though.

[Lazarus Long]

What has happened already and continues to happen is that this organization appears to function like an entry portal to the ideas of longevity and transhumanism. We see many come and even if they stay in part they also go to other regions of the web and meme where they can focus their talents better.

This is not necessarily a bad thing but it does make it hard to establish a definitive focus for this institute.

Some examples include the Methuselah Foundation or even Bruce and the new Singularity Institute, which were spins offs from early members of this institute. However in a sense we appear to be always a brides maid and never the bride in that we seem to still lack the kind of definitive focus on the core issues that go beyond the popular topics to what requires the real work of science.

There are three core areas that I see as the venue for this organization aside from promoting the interests of a particular subset of of society and its passion for substances; meme spreading, organized education, and incubating real scientific models.

We already do a lot of the first category and can perhaps do better, the second is one that we need better organization for, and the third is possibly the most important, the most consistent with our mission, the area where we have had the most profound long lasting impact, and yet where we are the least focused.

The effort you are proposing here Brokenportal is in the first column, meme spreading and it remains important, something we can do well, and something we can even do better. For that reason I commend your efforts and BTW congratulate you on your ascension to our rank. You will now have a fund of capital to assist you in developing your ideas. Use it wisely.

I on the other hand want to focus on the under developed third category, developing the science of longevity.

I sent you a proposal which I will make public later this week after the new board is seated. It is intended to pursue that objective. What I would ask you to ponder is how to better integrate these functions for the institute. For example developing target groups and contact lists for sending out info, promoting ideas and recruiting support. These are areas of public relations that go hand in hand with much of what all of us are interesting in accomplishing but it helps us organize who gets what message so improve the impact for them.

[brokenportal]

..in a sense we appear to be always a brides maid and never the bride in that we seem to still lack the kind of definitive focus on the core issues that go beyond the popular topics to what requires the real work of science.

Well, Imminst didn’t have a lot of people in the beginning but a lot of project ideas flew around the forums and many of them were developed, like some of the ones you indicate. The memebership is growing fast now and the need for projects has never been greater. People want stuff to do and there is plenty to do. We will be the bride. We have already been the bride though through fah, and conferences, and the book, the documentary, etc.. There are plenty more opportunities sprouting and growing every where.

Once this bullet list some of us have been trying to move along got membership support and evolved into LEEEP then there were a lot of dynamics to consider. One thing is that in order to generate enough ideas and volunteers for LEEEP, we need to keep the action topics rolling, so we can keep ideas flowing, new members staying and contributing, get more people researching ideas, contributing to them, gain a bit more luck and serendipity in gaining resources and specialists etc... Right now they are hardly moving. We wanted an active topics split to keep action topics from being buried in supplements discussion and other discussions but we don’t know how long that might take. Therefore I created this 72 team project as a tool to help generate action discussion. Im not sure if it will be successful, but I know it can be if members will join it. A few have worked with it so far and when they have it has worked like a charm. Ive been working on getting people to join and remain confident that I can get enough to. If you have any ideas for that then please do let me know.

There are three core areas that I see as the venue for this organization aside from promoting the interests of a particular subset of of society and its passion for substances; meme spreading, organized education, and incubating real scientific models.

I view this similarly but I see it as being 4 main ways to help the cause, through the science, AGI, exposure and philanthropy. There are projects in LEEEP that contribute to all of those. Im not sure how healthy the balance is, but more can always be added. Please do, there is a topic here for recommending projects for the list. If you don’t want to include potential projects in LEEEP then I’ll still help you support them of course if you need help.

We already do a lot of the first category and can perhaps do better, the second is one that we need better organization for, and the third is possibly the most important, the most consistent with our mission, the area where we have had the most profound long lasting impact, and yet where we are the least focused.

I haven’t really been thinking about it in terms of what we have done, but I have been thinking over time on what we are doing, and at this point we are on course to do all the things there you mention. Many through LEEEP, and various other projects like the HEALES Life Aid concert in Brussels later this year. There is also an Agi undergrad fund moving along that may split off from LEEEP.

The effort you are proposing here Brokenportal is in the first column, meme spreading and it remains important, something we can do well, and something we can even do better. For that reason I commend your efforts and BTW congratulate you on your ascension to our rank. You will now have a fund of capital to assist you in developing your ideas. Use it wisely.

I will. Ill be putting projects under consideration for funding through a lot of discussion.

I on the other hand want to focus on the under developed third category, developing the science of longevity.

I fully support and work on that other hand also. I know what you mean. I see the void too. SENS is good but its like trying to predict the pathways and how to get a forest fire under control. They have a great grasp on their method but it might not work and we need more fire statistitians on this job. The outcome of this means the world to upwards of 7 billion people. One idea a few of us have been tossing around and that has been tossed around in the past is a science section for imminst that is by invite and or application only. It would probably come with a yearly membership fee that would include a couple of peer reviewed journals or something similar. This section would then be viewable by all, but you could only respond in it if you were a member by invite or application. The beginnings of it are being developed on line 48 here.

Ive also been contemplating and discussing and looking for the right people to discuss with, the idea of creating alternative methods to the 7 cellular negligible senescence engineering approaches. We could also list projects for working with metabolism so that it causes less damage or no damage, but well, we have to get all the right people in on discussions like that and then we could get more of that rolling. That project is in my top 5 list of projects to help push along and get rolling faster.

I read through that project that you proposed but I didn’t absorb it all and get the entire gist of it but I think that we’re on the same general page with it. When I got more time and remembered I planned to look through it again. Ill look through it again after this. Did you post it in the forums yet? It sounds like an excellent idea and Im excited to see it get moving and will gladly help where I can.

I sent you a proposal which I will make public later this week after the new board is seated. It is intended to pursue that objective. What I would ask you to ponder is how to better integrate these functions for the institute. For example developing target groups and contact lists for sending out info, promoting ideas and recruiting support. These are areas of public relations that go hand in hand with much of what all of us are interesting in accomplishing but it helps us organize who gets what message so improve the impact for them.

Developing target groups is important like you say. Me and some of the people I work with develop target groups most every where we go. In myspace and facebook we target bio engineering and transhumanism groups and places like that. We have an internetworking team that works to pull in our demographic from the nooks and crannies of blogs and forums and places all around the internet. However, slowly but surely the whole world will be our demographic and we all work on that too. There are many other projects working toward that end and we are always working to improve and hone in our skills and techniques. Ive also collected an extensive list of bio engineering, and media contacts and contacts like that in my emails that is tremendously handy. That would make another good project, getting people to build contact lists like that. Most of these projects also double as recruiting efforts and there is at least one direct recruit drive that I can think of.

[brokenportal]

This team is designed to get more action orientated life extension topics flowing through the active topics section. We need this discussion to constantly flow to get stuff done, to get ideas to develop, to get more people to come together, to get more new members to want to stay, to get everybody thinking about everything more.

We need this to happen, a mission of Advocacy and Research for Unlimited Lifespans thrives on it.

I will send a copy of Ending Aging, The Scientific Conquest of Death, or the Longevity Revolution to the next person who joins the team and responds to 10 topics in the 72 team project.

Thats the quickest $10.00 value your going to make anywhere around here that I know of for such a small effort. Please do, we need to get this team rolling.

Edited by brokenportal, 09 March 2009 - 10:01 PM.

[Mariusz]

I'm in :D

Edited by Mariusz, 16 March 2009 - 01:27 AM.

[brokenportal]

Excellent, please add your name to this list. A few more members here will go a long way with helping this team create more action discussion in the forums.


http://www.imminst.o...ndex.php/72team


I cant stress this enough, we need people to engage in more action discussion for the cause in the forums.

[technetium]

Count me in, this is an excellent idea. I am unable to add my name to the Wiki list as it says the Wiki page is locked. I have registered with the wiki.

Edited by technetium, 31 March 2009 - 07:45 PM.

[brokenportal]

Thanks to everybody who has joined, to officially join you have to add your name to the team wiki page at the link there in the topic.

Im having a hard time being able to tell if people that expressed interest in joining the team have been using the list. Has anybody? Im thinking that a good way to structure the team and keep it moving would be to require a minimum number of uses of this list per week. This small quota works well for some of the other teams we have running.

What Im thinking is that we can set a minimum of 2 responses to any links in this topic per week to be on the team. We could start a list in a response here of everybody thats on the team. Then add two, you can do more than two of course, but only add two of them, to a copy and paste of the name list. To choose a topic, what I recommend is to just click on two random links and respond.

We could also use a team captain for this team to keep track of the additions. If you want to head this up then let us know here. If somebody doesnt add 2 for the week then they would be removed from the team. The team captain would also want to keep general order, answer questions and the like and that kind of thing. What Im thinking is that we can keep track of weekly additions by having members post to a new box like this each week: The team members will be published in various places, Im working on getting them into the news letter and other sources. We are also working on a prize system for every team member in good standing. What Im thinking is like, an imminst t shirt to the top five volunteers voted on in a poll every two months.

Week 1

Luigi: 4, 64
Benny: 36, 41
Kim: 71, 54

Then when a team member checks in, they copy and paste that box and add their name and the number of two links they responded to. Like this:

Week 1

Luigi: 4, 64
Benny: 36, 41
Kim: 71, 54
Nora: 57, 65

By the end of the week then the team captain can easily look through and see if every member in the team wiki is in the final copy and paste week box of the week, and then start a new box, the next one would then be of course,

Week 2

Luigi: 38, 43

The team members for all teams will be published in various places, Im working on getting them into the news letter and other sources. We are also working on a prize system for every team member in good standing. What Im thinking is like, an imminst t shirt to the top five volunteers voted on in a poll every two months.

Edited by brokenportal, 01 April 2009 - 06:25 PM.

[brokenportal]

If anybody thinks this structure will work then lets discuss it a bit, maybe tweak it a bit and then Ill restructure the topic to reflect just the structure of the team.

I also want to propose this team as an idea to be voted in by the recorders into the imminst projects. Since the imminst projects structure is new, Im not sure exactly how it will work. Maybe this can be a good test.

[technetium]

Following error encountered when trying to add name to wiki (after having logged into wiki):

This page has been locked to prevent editing; there are a number of reasons why this may be so, please see Project:Protected page

that link then redirects to a dead page.

[brokenportal]

If your not signed up as a member then you cant edit the wiki. Ill work that into the team. Im thinking about making it so that people can join the team by adding their name to the "Week" box.

You can also get access to the wiki from Mind for being on a team that works in the wiki, I think this may also extend to any imminst team like this one that doesnt work so much in the wiki. Somebody can add it for you also. Ill add it now. That reminds me that Ill have to work this in to team captain rules. The team captain will have to inform mind to take the member status from team members who leave the team. We need a team captain, are you interested?

Im working on restructuring the team topic right now. I also submitted it into the new imminst project structure.

Edited by brokenportal, 01 April 2009 - 06:53 PM.

[caliban]

I also submitted it into the new imminst project structure.

Thank you for your suggestion brokenportal.

Obviously, this project is already ongoing rather than a new idea. As such, I suggest to place this thread in the 'LEEEP' section, or, if you do not want to run it as a LEEEP project in the 'suggestions archive'.

If you would like to present a new project derived from or based on the items above, or would like feedback on getting this project recognised as an official 'project' please submit a new post that explains what you are planing to do.