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[Immortal Rain]

Good sources for racetams? best bang for buck?

Seems like less places are selling piracetams, and other racetam. Will Obama crack down and regulate drugs? Will he throw people in jail?

[Ghostrider]

Good sources for racetams? best bang for buck?

Seems like less places are selling piracetams, and other racetam. Will Obama crack down and regulate drugs? Will he throw people in jail?

It seems to depend on your personal biochemistry. Honestly, I have yet to find a truly amazing nootropic. This makes sense because if it was truly amazing, then everyone would be using it. I guess maybe phenylpiracetam or modafinil, although modafinil is not really a nootropic and not much better than caffeine. I seem to have built up tolerance to both.

[Pike]

1fast400. but some people question their authenticity. however, they're pretty consistently the cheapest when it comes to powdered noots. not always, but i'd say you'd find their products being sold at the lowest about 60-70% of the time.

[dave_black]

bodybuilding.com have piracetam 500grams for about $20-.

[Mike M]

I'm bias, smartpowders.com :D

[doctordog]

could anyone give me a good source for aniracetam that they've had personal experience with?

[punkideas]

+1 on it depends on you. I'd start with piracetam, since it's really cheap compared to the other racetams, and is cost-effective for daily use. I haven't tried oxi or ani yet, since I am a poor student, but it's really a matter of finding out what works for you. Just don't forget to use a choline source, that seems to be a significant factor for racetam effectiveness.

[synapse]

could anyone give me a good source for aniracetam that they've had personal experience with?

We have quite a bit of Aniracetam in stock at CerebralHealth.com and to the best of my knowledge we have the best price.

Edited by synapse, 15 May 2009 - 01:18 PM.

[dave_black]

could anyone give me a good source for aniracetam that they've had personal experience with?

We have quite a bit of Aniracetam in stock at CerebralHealth.com and to the best of my knowledge we have the best price.

Yeah thats good!
Bulk Pramiracetam 500 grams $495

[soulfiremage]

My personal experience arrived today from Smartpowders.com . They do several of the other, newer racetams.

I spoke with Mike via Chat I believe it was on Thursday evening last week. Due to my being in the UK he processed my order live. He was quick and accommodating.

It was bank holiday yesterday in the UK, so that is a non working day over here. Yet, all the way from the USA, two fat tubs of Piracetam have arrived.

I'm very pleased with the results, and with Mike's incredibly fast decent service. I'm afraid he has my dollar for both my next order and at least one member of my family. Thanks Mike .

(Yep, half a teaspoon tastes foul BUT there's a definite effect to feel an hour later. I combined with Alpha-GPC in my Cognitex.)

Next question-UK source for Cognitex by Life Extension .

[Mike M]

I have a huge sell on Oxiracetam coming. Going to confirm everything today, but will likely be dropping the price from 50USD to 35.00 for about 2 weeks. Aniracetam will have a larger size offered soon, which will be 180g. Should have everything posted tomorrow.

[synapse]

Our current price on Aniracetam at Cerebral Health is $329/kilogram. I see that the Smart Powders price on Aniracetam works out to roughly $499/kilogram.

[synapse]

I have a huge sell on Oxiracetam coming. Going to confirm everything today, but will likely be dropping the price from 50USD to 35.00 for about 2 weeks. Aniracetam will have a larger size offered soon, which will be 180g. Should have everything posted tomorrow.

In regards to the Oxiracetam, even if the price is brought down to $35/50 grams, that still works out to $700/kilogram. At the current price of $50/50 grams its $1,000/kilogram. We offer bulk Oxiracetam for $649/kilogram at CerebralHealth.com.

Edited by synapse, 27 May 2009 - 03:23 PM.

[Mike M]

Do you follow me around on the internet? I'm just curious. No matter what board I post on your follow me. If you really want to get into some big e-competition, fine by me.

[Mike M]

I'm curious, the only address I could find for your business is a house in flordia. Is that where you make this stuff? I didn't see any lab tests on any of your powders, can you post some of those? I'm sure you're fully compliant with the new manufacturing and label laws right?

I mean, if you really want to play this way I can, up to you. There is enough room for everyone. I don't go after your posts bragging about how my piracetam is cheaper than yours. Stick to your own business and quit following me around on message boards, good grief.

[sjaakie]

I was looking on Bulknutrition for the 1Fast400 brand but they don't sell it anymore.

[synapse]

I'm curious, the only address I could find for your business is a house in flordia. Is that where you make this stuff? I didn't see any lab tests on any of your powders, can you post some of those? I'm sure you're fully compliant with the new manufacturing and label laws right?

I mean, if you really want to play this way I can, up to you. There is enough room for everyone. I don't go after your posts bragging about how my piracetam is cheaper than yours. Stick to your own business and quit following me around on message boards, good grief.

I am not following you around- give me a break! I do however stop by the ImmInst forums fairly regularly. I see that you are posting your prices on things you sell. Since this thread is entitled "best bang for your buck", I don't see a problem stating our prices in comparison. We are happy to provide the most recent COAs to those who request them. Bulk nootropics and cognitive enhancers are only a part of our business. I am more interested in the new product development end of things- especially in regards to nootropic synergies.

Edited by synapse, 27 May 2009 - 05:26 PM.

[Mike M]

I'm curious, the only address I could find for your business is a house in flordia. Is that where you make this stuff? I didn't see any lab tests on any of your powders, can you post some of those? I'm sure you're fully compliant with the new manufacturing and label laws right?

I mean, if you really want to play this way I can, up to you. There is enough room for everyone. I don't go after your posts bragging about how my piracetam is cheaper than yours. Stick to your own business and quit following me around on message boards, good grief.

I am not following you around- give me a break! I do however stop by the ImmInst forums fairly regularly. I see that you are posting your prices on things you sell. Since this thread is entitled "best bang for your buck", I don't see a problem stating our prices in comparison. We are happy to provide the most recent COAs to those who request them.

No, not a COA that Meng gave you. I'm talking about testing the product, not scanning the COA she gave you. Have you ever met her? Have you ever been to their facility out in CA? Just curious as I've been there a few times. Why does a consumer have to request a COA to see it? If you're quality is up to standard, I wouldn't see this as being a problem? Since you didn't address the house issue, I'll just assume you're working out of that house for these powders.

[Mike M]

I was looking on Bulknutrition for the 1Fast400 brand but they don't sell it anymore.

They decided not to sell it anymore. You can buy it from primaforce under a host of different sites. I carry it at smartpowders.com as do quite a few other vendors.

[synapse]

I'm curious, the only address I could find for your business is a house in flordia. Is that where you make this stuff? I didn't see any lab tests on any of your powders, can you post some of those? I'm sure you're fully compliant with the new manufacturing and label laws right?

I mean, if you really want to play this way I can, up to you. There is enough room for everyone. I don't go after your posts bragging about how my piracetam is cheaper than yours. Stick to your own business and quit following me around on message boards, good grief.

I am not following you around- give me a break! I do however stop by the ImmInst forums fairly regularly. I see that you are posting your prices on things you sell. Since this thread is entitled "best bang for your buck", I don't see a problem stating our prices in comparison. We are happy to provide the most recent COAs to those who request them.

No, not a COA that Meng gave you. I'm talking about testing the product, not scanning the COA she gave you. Have you ever met her? Have you ever been to their facility out in CA? Just curious as I've been there a few times. Why does a consumer have to request a COA to see it? If you're quality is up to standard, I wouldn't see this as being a problem? Since you didn't address the house issue, I'll just assume you're working out of that house for these powders.

You are probably referring to my home in Jupiter, Florida. And no, I don't manufacture the racetams at my house- that would be quite a house though. We may be getting some of the racetams from the same source. The reason that customers can request the COAs is due to the fact that we are getting in new batches all the time and the most recent batch has a new COA associated with it. The COAs change quickly and customers can get the most recent info via email.

Edited by synapse, 27 May 2009 - 05:42 PM.

[Mike M]

I'm curious, the only address I could find for your business is a house in flordia. Is that where you make this stuff? I didn't see any lab tests on any of your powders, can you post some of those? I'm sure you're fully compliant with the new manufacturing and label laws right?

I mean, if you really want to play this way I can, up to you. There is enough room for everyone. I don't go after your posts bragging about how my piracetam is cheaper than yours. Stick to your own business and quit following me around on message boards, good grief.

I am not following you around- give me a break! I do however stop by the ImmInst forums fairly regularly. I see that you are posting your prices on things you sell. Since this thread is entitled "best bang for your buck", I don't see a problem stating our prices in comparison. We are happy to provide the most recent COAs to those who request them.

No, not a COA that Meng gave you. I'm talking about testing the product, not scanning the COA she gave you. Have you ever met her? Have you ever been to their facility out in CA? Just curious as I've been there a few times. Why does a consumer have to request a COA to see it? If you're quality is up to standard, I wouldn't see this as being a problem? Since you didn't address the house issue, I'll just assume you're working out of that house for these powders.

You are probably referring to my home in Jupiter, Florida. And no, I don't manufacture the racetams at my house- that would be quite a house though. We may be getting some of the racetams from the same source. The reason that customers can request the COAs is due to the fact that we are getting in new batches all the time and the most recent batch has a new COA associated with it. The COAs change quickly and customers can get the most recent info via email.

That is the biggest full of crap answer I've ever heard haha. I'm going to leave this alone. This board doesn't need us fighting. The concept that you're basically "too busy" to post them is funny. If you're getting new batches all the time, maybe you should be ordering more. Considering most suppliers bring in 100's of kilo's at a time, you're pulling from the same batch. Which is why the COA you posted from meng (who I rarely use btw) had it within 1 year of expiration. She brought in 600kg for me on that initial order, you were pulling from my batch :D. So if you're blowing through this material so fast, why are you using material that is dated?

A better, question, why don't you test your own powders vs trusting a random COA that someone could print on their desktop?

[synapse]

I'm curious, the only address I could find for your business is a house in flordia. Is that where you make this stuff? I didn't see any lab tests on any of your powders, can you post some of those? I'm sure you're fully compliant with the new manufacturing and label laws right?

I mean, if you really want to play this way I can, up to you. There is enough room for everyone. I don't go after your posts bragging about how my piracetam is cheaper than yours. Stick to your own business and quit following me around on message boards, good grief.

I am not following you around- give me a break! I do however stop by the ImmInst forums fairly regularly. I see that you are posting your prices on things you sell. Since this thread is entitled "best bang for your buck", I don't see a problem stating our prices in comparison. We are happy to provide the most recent COAs to those who request them.

No, not a COA that Meng gave you. I'm talking about testing the product, not scanning the COA she gave you. Have you ever met her? Have you ever been to their facility out in CA? Just curious as I've been there a few times. Why does a consumer have to request a COA to see it? If you're quality is up to standard, I wouldn't see this as being a problem? Since you didn't address the house issue, I'll just assume you're working out of that house for these powders.

You are probably referring to my home in Jupiter, Florida. And no, I don't manufacture the racetams at my house- that would be quite a house though. We may be getting some of the racetams from the same source. The reason that customers can request the COAs is due to the fact that we are getting in new batches all the time and the most recent batch has a new COA associated with it. The COAs change quickly and customers can get the most recent info via email.

That is the biggest full of crap answer I've ever heard haha. I'm going to leave this alone. This board doesn't need us fighting. The concept that you're basically "too busy" to post them is funny. If you're getting new batches all the time, maybe you should be ordering more. Considering most suppliers bring in 100's of kilo's at a time, you're pulling from the same batch. Which is why the COA you posted from meng (who I rarely use btw) had it within 1 year of expiration. She brought in 600kg for me on that initial order, you were pulling from my batch :D. So if you're blowing through this material so fast, why are you using material that is dated?

A better, question, why don't you test your own powders vs trusting a random COA that someone could print on their desktop?

Like you said earlier, there is enough room for everyone. And I would be open to a possible alliance at some point. However, while I think our sources may be the same (for one of the racetams), the batches are different from one another. The production runs are very recent and are reflected in the COAs. I deal directly with pharm labs and don't have intermediaries "bring in" product for the company. There seems to be a common misconception that all the nootropics in the country originate from the same batch that is distributed to various companies once it crosses the border. In my experience, this is not necessarily true- for Cerebral Health at least.

Edited by synapse, 27 May 2009 - 06:11 PM.

[Mike M]

I can only sit here and wonder if you believe some of the things you actually say, wow. Anyways, have fun, just quit following me (it's not just this board).

[synapse]

I can only sit here and wonder if you believe some of the things you actually say, wow. Anyways, have fun, just quit following me (it's not just this board).

There are only a few nootropic boards that are halfway decent- it has nothing to do with you.

[seaexplorer]

Since there are people here with much more knowledge than I have on racetams, how does my recent buy sound below?

I got 120 tablets of "nootropil" 800mg ea for about $35 from biogenesis. The dose I take is 2.4g, three tablets at once, in the morning ... I'm just basing this off of the book that Dr. Phillip Miller published called "Life Extension ... "

After coming here, now I see that there are powders and other various strengths ... are powders or liquids better? I'm only familiar with the "Nootropil" brand, but definitely open to learn of others. Thanks