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[OneScrewLoose]

Recently I found out that the Ginkgold I'd been taking for a month can cause GI distress. Now I'm wondering if anything else I'm taking can do the same thing. For years undiagnosed celiac disease and other food intolerances caused extreme pain that I could do nothing about. A year after figuring out the last of the intolerances, I'm still left with this chronic gastritis. If one thing triggers enough acid to create a significant amount of pain, I feel depressed (sometimes extremely) for a day or two. I want to make sure that nothing I am taking is preventing healing or causing more damage. Here is what I take:

Fish Oil
Melatonin
Glucosamine & Chondroitin w/ MSM
Kava Kava
Pantoprazole
SAM-E
Seroquel
St John's Wort (Kira)
Selegiline
Vitamin D-3
Magnesium & Calcium Glycinate Chelate
L-Tryptophan
L-Glycine
Rhodiola (occasional)
Ativan (occasional)
100% Cranberry Juice
Pomogranate Seeds (whole, not in supplement form)

The last two are foods, but I just want to be careful. I want to make sure that none of this rings any immediate bells for any of you.

Also, I do get a significant amount of caffeine, which I know is bad for gastritis. I get it mostly from tea and naked juice (the ones w/ guarana). I don't drink coffee or energy drinks. I drink mostly green tea...how bad is that? I drink one cup of black tea in the morning usually. Should I get rid of that? Would Yerba Mate be any different?

Any suggestions would be great. I took D-Limonene for a while and that seemed to help. Now that jarrow's has released it much cheaper I am thinking about it again. Any known side-effects for taking that whole bottle at 1 pill a day? (1000mg/day for 60 days)

One more thing. I take the Trader Joe's brand of Fish Oil which has tocopherol sourced from soy. Being intolerant to soy, should I worry about that?

Thanks for any input.

[bgwithadd]

I had stomach problems for years and they very suddenly disappeared not too long ago. Which is amazing. I think it has to be a supplement, but I am not sure what. I'm guessing the rhodiola but it may be all the pine bark extract.

Unfortunately, any sort of pill or supplement can irritate your stomach, but the only one that leaps out is the magnesium and the cranberry juice.

[Matt]

Manuka Honey heals gastritis.

http://www.rowsehone...a-honey-science

Edited by Matt, 05 February 2009 - 12:18 PM.

[4eva]

I'm not sure what supplements may irritate your gastritis but you seem to have some reduncancy and questionable (to me) things you're taking.

I would question if you need SAMe for methylation. Usually people with food allergies or intolerences do not need SAMe. Its possible you are an undermethylator, anything is possible, but its unlikely you are if you have food allergies. People with food allergies are more likely to be overmethylators.

If the SAMe is for undermethylation then why are you supplementing the tryptophan, SJW, MAOI, rhodiolia, and maybe some other things (related to nuerotransmitters). SAMe should get your neurotransmitters balanced if you need it for methylation.

Do you have arthritis or joint problems? If so then the SAMe may be redundant with the MSM combo, but I'm not absolutely sure on supplements for joint problems or arthritis. You are taking three different sulfur containing supplements. If you need that much sulfur then you probably need molybdenum too. Sulfur is an acidifying mineral.

You might research aloe vera. I like aloe vera chunks from Trader Joes over the juice. It helps heal the GI tract. It also has anti inflammatory properties. Its considered a very alkalizing and nutritious food.

I think you might be able to reduce some of the supplements you take.

Edited by 4eva, 05 February 2009 - 12:52 PM.

[VespeneGas]

SAMe gives some people GI distress.

From personal experience, I recommend L-Glutamine (free form powder, like 5-10 grams at a time).

[nameless]

Green tea and cranberry juice certainly could worsen acid reflux or gastric problems. I'm not saying they do in you, but it's not uncommon. I know my stomach doesn't like green tea, in tea or extract form.

Edited by nameless, 05 February 2009 - 04:39 PM.

[sUper GeNius]

One word: stress.

[nowayout]

<br />SAMe gives some people GI distress.<br /><br />From personal experience, I recommend L-Glutamine (free form powder, like 5-10 grams at a time).<br />

Careful. L-glutamine gives me explosive gastric distress.

[ajnast4r]

<br />SAMe gives some people GI distress.<br /><br />From personal experience, I recommend L-Glutamine (free form powder, like 5-10 grams at a time).<br />

Careful. L-glutamine gives me explosive gastric distress.

yea man, i see glutamine recommended all the time for stomach problems... but it KILLS me. i have celiac disease as well and i think that may have something to do with it being that the gluten amino acid sequences that causes the reaction are Pro-Ser-Gln-Gln and Gln-Gln-Gln-Pro

i believe its a fairly common reaction in celiacs... check out this thread on celiac.com

[OneScrewLoose]

I took glutamine for a month or to then stopped it. When I took it again a few days ago it hurt like hell. It was probably hurting me back then but my stomach was too numb to feel it.

That's the history w/ my stomach. I take some supps off and on and then after a while I figure out it hurts me. It's just my stomach was too numb to feel it at that point. That's what happens over and over as my stomach heals. I just had that happen to me with the Ginkgold when I decided to take a couple more in the morning and found out it hurts. It's always the reason why I am posting this, because I think this process is continuing.

So definitely get rid of the Cranberry Juice? And the Rhodiola? If green tea is bad, I need at least some source of caffeine. Any recommendations?

Also, about redundancy, I'm aware of that issue, it's just that I am doing pretty decent right now and I am afraid of removing things like the SAM-E. My mood got a lot better after I started the SAM-E. Plus I don't have a lot of, if any, food allergies. They are all intolerances and operate on a different mechanism. I don't know if that makes a difference in the case of need for methylation. I just tried the tryptophan last night and was thinking of using it instead of the melatonin. Any reason I should use both?

I also forgot to mention that I take pea protein and creatine after workout. I also just added Resveratrol for inflammation.

[stephen_b]

Interesting blog entry: Sugar, Hydrogen, Bacteria and Maldigestion.

StephenB

[nameless]

You can do a trial of dropping one or two things, and see if it helps. Drop the tea for a couple of days, see if you stomach feels better, etc. And perhaps your stomach is fine with tea, cranberry juice, etc. I just know for myself both are acidic... I can drink the juice, but green tea makes my stomach feel... bad.

D-Limonene should be okay, so long as you don't have an ulcer. I'm not sure about long-term use (like years of use), but a 60 day supply or so shouldn't cause any problems for most, I'd think.

I assume you've seen a Gastroenterologist? Perhaps ask him about the limonene or a change in your stomach medication? And have you had food allergy testing? Some Immunocap testing may be worth getting, if you haven't already -- http://www.isitallergy.com/

Probiotics/digestive enzymes of any use for you?

[4eva]

Also, about redundancy, I'm aware of that issue, it's just that I am doing pretty decent right now and I am afraid of removing things like the SAM-E. My mood got a lot better after I started the SAM-E. Plus I don't have a lot of, if any, food allergies. They are all intolerances and operate on a different mechanism. I don't know if that makes a difference in the case of need for methylation. I just tried the tryptophan last night and was thinking of using it instead of the melatonin. Any reason I should use both? I also forgot to mention that I take pea protein and creatine after workout. I also just added Resveratrol for inflammation.

If you continue to use SAMe then cycle it. Five days on and two days off. That is how you are supposed to take it so your body nethylates on its own on a regular basis. You might look into adding methyl folate.

If you're an undermethylator then you should be taking calcium, magnesium, zinc, manganese, copper and B6 to name the main ones (besides folate and B12). Copper can be important for undermethylators. Some U-Ms can become deficient in copper. Copper helps with inflammation and is important for the catecholamines. I think resv chelates copper, which may cause problems for you if you're not getting enough copper. I wonder if trying more copper would help and perhaps negate the need for resv.

Do you take B12? Its important for methylation but some U-Ms can have a problem with B12. A sublingual form should not be a problem in terms of your GI issues; but if it makes you feel worse (depressed or anxious) then stop taking it.
Proper methylation should improve your moods so you don't need the tryptophan and those other things for neuros.B6 is important for methylation; perhaps if you add the supplements for U-Ms you can drop those other ones.
The problem with taking tryptophan is that it needs to be balanced with DLPA/ tyrosine or your MAOI. If you are taking the deprenyl for mood and not anti-aging then I guess the tryptophan is useful. If the MAOI is for anti-aging then I think you might use melatonin instead. What is your dose of deprenyl? If you are taking tryptophan for sleep mostly then you might try melatonin. Tryptophan may cause some GI problems, depending on your dose and I think if you don't need it.

Taking both tryptophan and melatonin would only make sense if you had trouble sleeping with just tryptophan.

[OneScrewLoose]

Also, about redundancy, I'm aware of that issue, it's just that I am doing pretty decent right now and I am afraid of removing things like the SAM-E. My mood got a lot better after I started the SAM-E. Plus I don't have a lot of, if any, food allergies. They are all intolerances and operate on a different mechanism. I don't know if that makes a difference in the case of need for methylation. I just tried the tryptophan last night and was thinking of using it instead of the melatonin. Any reason I should use both? I also forgot to mention that I take pea protein and creatine after workout. I also just added Resveratrol for inflammation.

If you continue to use SAMe then cycle it. Five days on and two days off. That is how you are supposed to take it so your body nethylates on its own on a regular basis. You might look into adding methyl folate.

If you're an undermethylator then you should be taking calcium, magnesium, zinc, manganese, copper and B6 to name the main ones (besides folate and B12). Copper can be important for undermethylators. Some U-Ms can become deficient in copper. Copper helps with inflammation and is important for the catecholamines. I think resv chelates copper, which may cause problems for you if you're not getting enough copper. I wonder if trying more copper would help and perhaps negate the need for resv.

Do you take B12? Its important for methylation but some U-Ms can have a problem with B12. A sublingual form should not be a problem in terms of your GI issues; but if it makes you feel worse (depressed or anxious) then stop taking it.
Proper methylation should improve your moods so you don't need the tryptophan and those other things for neuros.B6 is important for methylation; perhaps if you add the supplements for U-Ms you can drop those other ones.
The problem with taking tryptophan is that it needs to be balanced with DLPA/ tyrosine or your MAOI. If you are taking the deprenyl for mood and not anti-aging then I guess the tryptophan is useful. If the MAOI is for anti-aging then I think you might use melatonin instead. What is your dose of deprenyl? If you are taking tryptophan for sleep mostly then you might try melatonin. Tryptophan may cause some GI problems, depending on your dose and I think if you don't need it.

Taking both tryptophan and melatonin would only make sense if you had trouble sleeping with just tryptophan.

I don't know about adding all that UM stiff until my stomach has healed. I take deprenyl for ADD, and I take 5mg. That's one of the reasons I just added tryptophan, to balance that out. Melatonin seems to do nothing for me, I might drop that. I've started getting sleep paralysis/quasi nightmares every night for the first time I feel asleep since I've added glycine (I fall asleep, get sleep paralysis, wake up, go back to sleep). Probably gonna drop that too. Here's what I take for sleep:

300mg Seroquel
1mg time released melatonin
500mg tryptophan
250mg kava
1/2 teaspoon glycine

I still take an hour to get to sleep and wake up more tired than I went to bed, even after all that. Meditation has revealed that I have this sense of paranoia at night, and it's worse when I try to go to bed. My doctor is gonna prescribe sonata and hopefully that will at least get me to sleep. I've tried ambien, trazadone, temazepam, remeron, all that stuff stops working after 2 weeks tops and makes me feel like crap when I wake up.

Kind of at a loss here. And the more stuff I take, the higher the probability that one of them is hurting my stomach.

*sigh*

I've never seen anything telling me that I should cycle SAM-E. Got a link on that?

Edited by OneScrewLoose, 06 February 2009 - 04:18 AM.

[4eva]

No, I don't have a link on cycling SAMe. I know this from talking to people who were treated by doctors experienced with this stuff.

The correct way to supplement SAMe or methionine is not explained anywhere on the net. This is something that should be done with a doctor experienced with these supplements.

I think you need B6. It can help with sleep. It may help with the sleep paralysis. Taking amino acids like glycine and SAMe and tryptophan increase your need for B6. You need it for methylation also.

If you don't want my input that's your choice.

But SAMe isn't the lowest cost supplement there is. I think you could be getting better results for your efforts and money spent on supplements.

I don't know about your stomach pains or GI issues but I think your supplement regimen could be fine tuned.

[4eva]

Actually, I'm certain you're not ready to cycle SAMe because you're not taking B6. Folate, B6 and B12 are the three methylating nutrients. Undermethylators have a problem with regular folic acid so they need methyl folate. B12 can be a problem for some U-Ms. But B6 is absolutely essential. You can get by without methyl folate and without B12. But you need to take B6.

Taking methyl folate and B12 can speed up the process though.

At first you may feel worse from not taking SAMe. But at maybe 2 months to as much as 6 months you can reach a plateau and that's when you should try to cycle SAMe. There is no easy way to know when to start cycling, and this is usually something your doctor helps you with.

But I think you could do better with B6, both forms of it, and methyl folate and maybe B12.

[bgwithadd]

Upset stomach is the biggest side effect of kava. I am not sure how I missed that in your list but it makes me sick for days after I take it.

I would just drop the SAMe completely unless you get atypically great results. It seems to only work with high doses and it's expensive. Pine bark is more effective and it is likely to be very beneficial for your stomach, not harmful. It strengthens your capillaries a lot and that can help dramatically. Actually, I think that may be what's healed my issues (which were extreme and untreatable for years).

The MSM should help your stomach, but if your stomach and gi tract but if it's in really bad shape you should ditch all supplements until you can get it healed.

I'd drop the tryptophan for sure, too. Raw amino acids tend to be hard on the stomach (and anything in a pill, really) and it's a step down from 5htp so you could use a smaller dose of 5htp powder and get greater effect without risking problems.

[OneScrewLoose]

I don't think I'm prepared to mess with the SAM-E quite yet, because it really helped stabilize my mood after I started. Here's what I am thinking of dumping:

Tryptophan (only took it for one day)
Melatonin
Cranberry Juice (Should I? I really like)
Kava Kava (unless I really cant sleep, this is one of the few things that has had continued effectiveness)
Rhodiola
Glycine
Magnesium & Calcium (could these really aggravate my stomach?)

And I'll add:

B6 (What's the best form?)
D-Limonene (I do not have an ulcer and have taken it before w/ no sides)
Methyl Folate (maybe)

From the stuff I've read on "histadelia," and other UM, I should avoid folic acid. I'm confused.

I'm gonna try to get off all caffeine for a while. I don't need it as much now that I have the selegiline. I do feel like I need to balance that out with something serotonergic (is SWJ enough?), cause 5mg is a pretty high dose. Is 5-HTP better for the stomach? Also, I worry about taking it if I am taking B6.

Should I stick w/ the glucosamine & Chondrotin w/ MSM? I take it because a lot of my joints crack frequently, especially in my fingers and wrists, even by regular movement. It's not painful, and I've checked with doctors and it doesn't seem to be a health problem. It's just that I do it compulsively when I am stressed, and that makes me more stressed. But if it were better for my stomach I might give it a shot.

In response to the last poster, I take 400mg once a day. I tried pycnogenol and it hurt my stomach.

Edited by OneScrewLoose, 06 February 2009 - 09:17 AM.

[4eva]

You need to avoid regular folate because your body doesn't metabolize it completely. But you can benefit from methyl folate. Methyl folate will improve your undermeylation. Methyl folate is the form your body can metabolize.

You should try both forms of B6, pyridoxine and p-5-p. Maintain the dose of both when dream recall is good (dream recall a couple of times a week). Too much B6 is not good; so if you don't go too high with the dose you should be OK.

You might remove things one at a time to see if you feel worse. If you experience any problems then try adding back things one at a time, every other day.

But I think you should feel better if you get methylation working properly. B6, methyl folate and B12 are needed to improve methylation (you might be OK without B12).

I don't think calcium and magnesium should cause GI problems for you. Too much magnesium can give you the runs, but I don't think it should cause pain. You can wait a little on the CA and MG if you're getting the methylating B vitamins. Or go slowly with the magnesium dose.

Low doses of 5HTP shouldn't cause any pain or upset. But you should be able to drop this when the methylating nutrients start to work together. Methylation is important for your neurotransmitters.

You should sleep better when methylation gets working properly. I think B6 will improve sleep quality. If you need the kava to sleep then use it only when needed.

Cranberries are acidifying.

B6 can help with problems with your hands - carpal tunnel and inflammation. Your hands have a lot of tendons and B6 is good for problems with tendons (including things like trigger finger). I'm not sure why your joints in your hand and wrist crack. Has the MSM combo helped this?

Edited by 4eva, 06 February 2009 - 12:01 PM.

[OneScrewLoose]

You need to avoid regular folate because your body doesn't metabolize it completely. But you can benefit from methyl folate. Methyl folate will improve your undermeylation.

You should try both forms of B6, pyridoxine and p-5-p.

You might remove things one at a time to see if you feel worse. If you experience any problems then try adding back things one at a time, every other day.

But I think you should feel better if you get methylation working properly. B6, methyl folate and B12 are needed to improve methylation (B12 to a lesser extent).

The melatonin I've been taking for a while has 2mg pyriodoxine. Is this a noteworthy amount? I've been taking it for a while at night. Is there any reason to stop the melatonin? From what I've read, even if it doesn't help with sleep' it's still a powerful antioxidant in the brain. Is there any reason to spend the extra money on the LEF pyridoxamine?

Also, one of my original questions. Does it matter that the fish oil I use has tocopherol sourced from soy if I am intolerant to soy?

[4eva]

Melatonin shouldn't be a problem. The 2 mg of pyridoxine is minimal. You might add 50 mg of pyridoxine and either 50 or 25 mg of p-5-p.

I'm not sure about pyridoxamine and if it will help with undermethylation. I think taking pyridoxine and p-5-p for now would be good. You might try that form later on if you want. But I don't think you really need it right away. Too much B6 can cause problems for UMs so you want to take it slow with adding in too much B6. Get the basics down and then experiment with that other form later if you want.
I'm not sure about the soy-based essential fatty acids.
You might try another fatty acid product (if your budget allows) to see if that makes any difference.

[nameless]

Also, one of my original questions. Does it matter that the fish oil I use has tocopherol sourced from soy if I am intolerant to soy?

Very doubtful it'd cause a problem, unless you have some sort of super-sensitive allergy to every minuscule particle of soy-based products. But I don't think there are any soy proteins or anything you could be allergic to soy-wise in vitamin E.

The fish oil on the other hand, can cause gastric distress. I suppose it depends on the form you are taking and how much. And if with food or not.

[lynx]

Until you stop taking Protonix,Pantoprazole you will never know what is screwing things up.

My advice, go back to the beginning.

Drop everything

Eat fruit, vegetables, fish, nuts, lean animal protein and see what happens. Then add some white rice and you should be ok.

[nowayout]

Until you stop taking Protonix,Pantoprazole you will never know what is screwing things up.

My advice, go back to the beginning.

Drop everything

The best advice so far!

Eat fruit, vegetables, fish, nuts, lean animal protein and see what happens. Then add some white rice and you should be ok.

Also, well-cooked oatmeal is quite gentle on the stomach and well tolerated by most people. Stay away from the instant oats packets, though.

If you know for certain that you are not lactose intolerant, you may then also add plain unsweetened low-fat yoghurt or kefir, but avoid brands that have any other extra ingredients beyond milk and bacterial cultures.

Edited by andre, 06 February 2009 - 07:03 PM.

[OneScrewLoose]

Guess I shoulda made clear that I have celiac disease and I am also interolant to dairy, soy, eggs, nuts/peanuts.

Going "back to the beginning" is ridiculous. Suddenly dropping things like seroquel or selegiline can have disastrous effects on my brain. Plus, a lot of the stuff is keeping me stable. If I were to"drop everything," I probably will not be able to function in school (UCSD). So more realistic advice would be appreciated, like targeting the specific things that may hurt mu stomach.

"The fish oil on the other hand, can cause gastric distress. I suppose it depends on the form you are taking and how much. And if with food or not."

Never felt anything from it, but ya never know. Right now I take 3 capsules a day, each w 400/200 EPA/DHA. Is there a reason this would be too much?

Edited by OneScrewLoose, 06 February 2009 - 08:27 PM.

[nowayout]

Going "back to the beginning" is ridiculous. Suddenly dropping things like seroquel or selegiline can have disastrous effects on my brain.

Well, I thought it went without saying that the poster's advice was not meant to apply to prescribed medication. The title of the thread is "Could any of my supplements be impeding the healing of my stomach?", and I thought the answer given was spot on.

Edited by andre, 06 February 2009 - 09:21 PM.

[nameless]

"The fish oil on the other hand, can cause gastric distress. I suppose it depends on the form you are taking and how much. And if with food or not."

Never felt anything from it, but ya never know. Right now I take 3 capsules a day, each w 400/200 EPA/DHA. Is there a reason this would be too much?

It's probably fine. If it bothered you, you'd be burping up fish oil, so you'd notice it. Just make sure it's a good brand and it doesn't hurt to break open a capsule once in a while to taste it. Or you can do a trial of stopping for several days, then restarting, and see if it matters. A couple of years ago I broke open a capsule of fish oil (store brand) and found out it was clearly rancid. So it does happen, although probably not very often.

I'm afraid I don't know a ton about gastric issues and supplements, so can't say for certain if any other things you take could be causing problems. I wouldn't drop things you feel you must have to function properly, but it isn't a bad idea to drop everything unnecessary and see if it helps. I wouldn't add new supplements (except maybe limonene, as you tried that before), until your stomach issues are figured out.

Also keep an eye on tablet fillers. Some include lactose, which could be a problem for you. I remember trying magnesium tablets (horse size pills) and they caused me some stomach issues. It really wasn't the magnesium itself, but either the fillers or the chelate, or simply the size of the thing. And some reasonably safe supplements, like pycnogenol/grape seed, has bothered my stomach lately.... so... you won't really know until you test some things one by one.

[OneScrewLoose]

Going "back to the beginning" is ridiculous. Suddenly dropping things like seroquel or selegiline can have disastrous effects on my brain.

Well, I thought it went without saying that the poster's advice was not meant to apply to prescribed medication. The title of the thread is "Could any of my supplements be impeding the healing of my stomach?", and I thought the answer given was spot on.

My mistake. But I'm still not up for removing things that are related to my mood such as the SJW and SAM-E (maybe later with this). Anything else I'm open hears about.

So what do you guys think should stay or go? Can fish oil really cause GI stress?

[lynx]

Guess I shoulda made clear that I have celiac disease and I am also interolant to dairy, soy, eggs, nuts/peanuts.

Going "back to the beginning" is ridiculous. Suddenly dropping things like seroquel or selegiline can have disastrous effects on my brain. Plus, a lot of the stuff is keeping me stable. If I were to"drop everything," I probably will not be able to function in school (UCSD). So more realistic advice would be appreciated, like targeting the specific things that may hurt mu stomach.

"The fish oil on the other hand, can cause gastric distress. I suppose it depends on the form you are taking and how much. And if with food or not."

Never felt anything from it, but ya never know. Right now I take 3 capsules a day, each w 400/200 EPA/DHA. Is there a reason this would be too much?

OK, so don't eat nuts. Whatever.

Plus, before you get all holier than thou, I would be willing to bet that haven't been prescribed Deprenyl.

Has anyone ever told you that Deprenyl and Seroquel essentially work at cross purposes.

[OneScrewLoose]

Guess I shoulda made clear that I have celiac disease and I am also interolant to dairy, soy, eggs, nuts/peanuts.

Going "back to the beginning" is ridiculous. Suddenly dropping things like seroquel or selegiline can have disastrous effects on my brain. Plus, a lot of the stuff is keeping me stable. If I were to"drop everything," I probably will not be able to function in school (UCSD). So more realistic advice would be appreciated, like targeting the specific things that may hurt mu stomach.

"The fish oil on the other hand, can cause gastric distress. I suppose it depends on the form you are taking and how much. And if with food or not."

Never felt anything from it, but ya never know. Right now I take 3 capsules a day, each w 400/200 EPA/DHA. Is there a reason this would be too much?

OK, so don't eat nuts. Whatever.

Plus, before you get all holier than thou, I would be willing to bet that haven't been prescribed Deprenyl.

Has anyone ever told you that Deprenyl and Seroquel essentially work at cross purposes.

My doctor is aware I'm on both, so that's a null point. They do work on cross-purposes and they don't. Seroquel antaognizes the D1 and D2 receptors (amongst other non-dopamine receptors which may be more the reason it works for me). But there are many other dopamine receptors. The Selegiline will increase dopamine all around, so what this combo is doing for me is change the ratio of what dopamine receptors are hit. A system that seems to be working for me right now.

I'm thinking of dropping everything except:

Seroquel
SAM-E
Selegiline
SJW
Protonix
Resvetatrol (inflamation)
Creatine (post workout)
POM seeds (no one had an objection to those)
Fish Oil (should I keep it? really want opinions on this)

and adding:

D-Limonene
B6
Sonata

Then wait till my stomach heals before adding things like methyl folate and magnesium and whatever else.

Right now my doctor is having me try ativan for sleep before she gives me the sonata, so I will be using that the next couple of nights.

Anyone got any opinions on this? Suggestions?