The Sunday Evening Update proudly welcomes one of the world's foremost experts in medical physics and cryobiology Dr. Brian Wowk on Sunday July 5th at 6pm eastern, 2200 GMT. The interview will focus mainly on cryonics - the state of the science and sociological concerns.
Sunday Evening Update, July 5th, 6pm eastern, 2200 GMT
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Posted 28 June 2009 - 10:43 PM
The Sunday Evening Update proudly welcomes one of the world's foremost experts in medical physics and cryobiology Dr. Brian Wowk on Sunday July 5th at 6pm eastern, 2200 GMT. The interview will focus mainly on cryonics - the state of the science and sociological concerns.
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Posted 28 June 2009 - 11:08 PM
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 11:35 AM
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 12:34 PM
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 05:20 PM
This is a fine video, and thank you Brian. Aubrey's book "Ending Aging" is great and just explains it all so clearly. I recommend reading it.The Sunday Evening Update proudly welcomes one of the world's foremost experts in medical physics and cryobiology Dr. Brian Wowk on Sunday July 5th at 6pm eastern, 2200 GMT. The interview will focus mainly on cryonics - the state of the science and sociological concerns.
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 08:21 PM
Link to video here. It is a good refresher course for anyone who will be attending the show this Sunday.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 07:28 PM
Make this a weekly thing, help promote this show, consider hosting some sort of show for the cause at this imminst.org/tv page of your own. This is a fun easy way to get involved, and its the kind of thing that will keep people hooked more and longer once we get this show to really take hold. Once we cross a certain small ratings threshold then it will take hold. It wont take much. Lets do this.
Attend them when you can, and sign on as a promoter, or create a show if you are looking for a way to get involved.
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 09:40 PM
I'm still catching up on the matter, but I have some questions (that could be considered novice ones I guess) about what to look into when trying to find a solution that could be initiated in the next few years. I'm located in the Netherlands, so any form of required infrastructure for fast reaction times is absent or at an undesirable level combined with high costs.
I guess this starting point could be relevant to other not-to-hard-core-cryonists as well.
I'm considering the following levels of preservation, regardless what is considered "good practice" now or even in the near future. My knowledge is just not up to par yet.
1.
Get offspring......
2.
Archiving my DNA structure. Thoughts: this could be done today in all possible peace! (If technology allows, that is) Although the consequence is that my life will be lost ultimately since my memory will not be archived / preserved. But I eventually could be cloned.
3.
Preserving my brain (cryo or chemo?). Thoughts: All the relevant information about my life will be archived. Maybe not preserved since the technology to revive the information from the brain, let alone use it in a functional way, is not present.
4.
Full body preservation (I guess cryo would be the only viable option now). The idea still induces some form of science-fiction context, hence scepticism... And in case reviving would be possible eventually, I don't know if I would prefer a new cloned body instead of my hopefully old one, maybe a clone containing my old memories. But for that 2 and 3 could be sufficient. Would the high costs of full body preservation, that would possibly archive all the information possible, be cost effective.....
In a way, I just don't think option 4 would lead to reviving my entire body so that I could continue living at some point in time.... Focus would be on information storage in an efficient and effective way, hence option 2 or a combination of 2 and 3.
Where am I going wrong in my thoughts here?
Thanks!
Edited by Brainbox, 02 July 2009 - 09:41 PM.
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 10:03 PM
Im getting more and more interested in cryonics too. Good point about the brain vs. body. I think Im leaning that way now too. The information and program preservation is what is most important. Ive never had a good feeling about it either. The freezing arguements didnt convince me before. I felt it would be like Icarus trying to fly to the sun. But in a world of exponential accelleration in a place where it is, it seems like maybe we have evolved up through the Copernicus and Gagarin and Glen and Armstrong phases of this already. The understanding of freezing and its possible capabilities seem to be getting better all the time. If we sign up, chances are that by the time we possibily die that the freezing will be done much better.
Based on this then, a question I have is, what was the quality of freezing like 10 years ago, 3 years, ago, now, and what does the future of freezing technology look like?
Ive always thought this was important. Ive just always been poor, and thought that radical research strategies now was what was most important. Although, now Im hoping to get some life insurance with cryo with in the next 5, hopefully less, years. I still think working to see if we can get radical strategies in our life times is most important though.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 02:29 PM
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 03:13 PM
The show occurs here at Ustream.
Just below the video feed is an IRC chat box. Unfortunately due to recent prolific spamming in IRC chats, Ustream has made it a requirement that you register (free) before you can participate in the text chat. Before the show, I will try to implement an IRC code that removes this restriction, but I can't guarantee it will be successful. I recommend participating in the chat and asking questions as the interview rolls along. There have been many great discussions with researchers and leading advocates over the past 16 months of the show.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 05:00 PM
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 03:09 PM
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 06:47 PM
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 09:34 PM
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 09:35 PM
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 09:37 PM
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 11:18 PM
If you are interested in how things are progressing in the field of cryonics this would be a good program to view. Direct link to the video here.
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 04:44 PM
the video is a bit long and not necessarily obvious to hear.things are progressing in the field of cryonics this would be a good program to view. Direct link to the video here.
it would be nice if someone could write a summary of the main technical achievements and current limits.
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 08:45 PM
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Posted 06 August 2009 - 07:23 PM
I put in a code to enable the IRC text chat, but if you find that you cannot post a question in the Ustream chat, then you will have to register with Ustream.
it maybe a while until you respond, but i have met a tech guy for ustream and he is going to help out. broken gave me the irc code for ustream, but it dosnt work. he'll need the whole code to help. if he joins the LIVE show this weekend, . PLEASE mind, i will love to have you ther. the show is all about science and imminst meme. i would love it to become the NEW social place for all of us... maybe you can arrange interviews with the big shots after the show catches on
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Posted 06 August 2009 - 09:29 PM
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Posted 10 August 2009 - 02:53 PM
i am making progress with contacts and getting plug for help, etc. brokenportal and TEME were in chat between a few chatrooms last night until 4am talking to that member who is willing to go a bit above and beyond then most i know.. he has $25,000 in computer gear, has a long beard like aubrey and is all about the cause. here is the chatbox(from here) from that morning...If it works out, and looks good with the potential engaging content, then we can discuss future interviews which I could help arrange.
(03:53 AM) derkee78 - BP, if you are out, i am too. if not, i wouldnt mind a mic chat
(03:38 AM) derkee78 - model, i am at now.. we can say a few words til 4
(03:32 AM) modelcadet - take it easy guys and dolls; kudos for the great work re: Ustream today
(03:25 AM) derkee78 - BP, thats a big TY...
(03:18 AM) brokenportal - and thats an understatement, the stuff we figured out today could really help open up the throttle on imminst.org/tv
(03:17 AM) brokenportal - like viewership, I think we figured out some ways to get the ratings up today,
(03:17 AM) brokenportal - especially if we can get the show more resources like I think we can
(03:16 AM) brokenportal - a little pitching to some people could sway a vote in the other direction pretty easily
(03:16 AM) brokenportal - I mean, like, 3 out of 5 people, with out much over view on the situation, who arent around much, voted to probably slow it down on the show,
(03:15 AM) brokenportal - or what do you call it, swayable,
(03:15 AM) brokenportal - that pressure is really really subjective
(03:10 AM) modelcadet - you know where the pressure comes from
(03:09 AM) modelcadet - Mind said there was pressure on him to focus his efforts elsewhere... but I think the update is the coolest thing ImmInst has going, and, if anything, he should spend more time on it, not less!
(03:07 AM) brokenportal - why would he and we, imminst do that?
(03:07 AM) brokenportal - discontinue the sunday evening update?
(03:06 AM) brokenportal - its a guy with a huge computer tha tmight fold for fah too
(03:06 AM) brokenportal - we are chatting with a contact he found there
(03:06 AM) modelcadet - it's one of my favorite selling points for ImmInst
(03:06 AM) brokenportal - http://www.ustream.t...-kumpu...lt;<<< this is the contact
(03:06 AM) modelcadet - I'm really disappointed there's so much pressure on Mind to discontinue the Sunday Evening Update
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