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[Logan]

This may be old news to many but I thought it was worth bringing it to the attention of those that were not aware of this.

http://www.google.co...iKaFRFmbAHzD99w

[ajnast4r]

5mg of lithium orotate made a hugggeeeeee difference for me as far as stress & stress related depression go.

[Logan]

5mg of lithium orotate made a hugggeeeeee difference for me as far as stress & stress related depression go.

Yeah I've been on 300 mg lithium carbonate a day divided into 150 mg morning and night time doses for 3 days and already notice a considerable improvement. I love my lithium.

[health_nutty]

Thank you very much. I just placed an order after reading this. I've been in this anxiety/mild depression/stress kind of funk for a while. Magnesium has helped some as does upping my fish oil. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Logan]

Thank you very much. I just placed an order after reading this. I've been in this anxiety/mild depression/stress kind of funk for a while. Magnesium has helped some as does upping my fish oil. Thanks for the suggestion.

You may want to experiment with lithium orotate and aspartate. One may help you more than the other for whatever reason. Good luck.

[xdopamine]

I ordered some lithium oroate months ago (don't ask me why) but haven't touched it yet because I am somehow concerned about its safety.

5mg of lithium orotate made a hugggeeeeee difference for me as far as stress & stress related depression go.

How long did it take to notice first improvements? Does it cause (or worsen) fatigue or brainfog?

[Logan]

I ordered some lithium oroate months ago (don't ask me why) but haven't touched it yet because I am somehow concerned about its safety.
Does it cause (or worsen) fatigue or brainfog?

It is highly unlikely that you will have to concern yourself with safety, fatigue or brainfog at a very low dose. These side effect and toxicity concerned occur with people being treated for bipolar that are taking anywhere from 900 to 2000 mg of lithium carbonate. Some people do feel a bit more numb and may experience a little brain fog on as little a dose as 125 mg/5mg elemental lithium orotate, but those people are in the minority. Also, it may be a good idea to try lithium aspartate if you do not feel you are responding well to lithium orotate. Lithium aspartate could have a more uplifting effect.

Like I said, I have been taking lithium carbonate at 300 mg a day for 3 days. So far, I feel fantastic relative to how I felt before starting lithium. I definitely notice a significant uplifting effect in my mood. I also have much less anxiety which means that my cognition seems to have improved slightly over the past few days. I just feel so much better overall.

You may need a week or 2 for blood lithium levels to raise and become consistent before you really begin to notice the effects. And I imagine that it would take a month or so to notice any possible improvement from increased grey matter.

[health_nutty]

I'm taking 20mg of lithium a day and it seems like it is just what I needed! My BP is down to normal, I'm much more mellow, and my mood is better. I feel much more even keeled. It feels like I had a lithium deficiency and this is correcting it.

[Logan]

I'm taking 20mg of lithium a day and it seems like it is just what I needed! My BP is down to normal, I'm much more mellow, and my mood is better. I feel much more even keeled. It feels like I had a lithium deficiency and this is correcting it.

You just needed something to help your brain deal with stress a little better. There is not lithium deficiency-it's not an essential nutrient, at least not essential at the dose your taking. That's great your having a positive response to it. I will be interested in seeing if this response continues. Hopefully it does.

[health_nutty]

I'm taking 20mg of lithium a day and it seems like it is just what I needed! My BP is down to normal, I'm much more mellow, and my mood is better. I feel much more even keeled. It feels like I had a lithium deficiency and this is correcting it.

You just needed something to help your brain deal with stress a little better. There is not lithium deficiency-it's not an essential nutrient, at least not essential at the dose your taking. That's great your having a positive response to it. I will be interested in seeing if this response continues. Hopefully it does.

Yeah, I know it's not essential I was making a joke.

I'll keep you all updated.

[Logan]

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I'm taking 20mg of lithium a day and it seems like it is just what I needed! My BP is down to normal, I'm much more mellow, and my mood is better. I feel much more even keeled. It feels like I had a lithium deficiency and this is correcting it.

You just needed something to help your brain deal with stress a little better. There is not lithium deficiency-it's not an essential nutrient, at least not essential at the dose your taking. That's great your having a positive response to it. I will be interested in seeing if this response continues. Hopefully it does.

Yeah, I know it's not essential I was making a joke.

I'll keep you all updated.

I figured as much.

[nito]

Thank you very much. I just placed an order after reading this. I've been in this anxiety/mild depression/stress kind of funk for a while. Magnesium has helped some as does upping my fish oil. Thanks for the suggestion.

May i ask where you bought it from and what brand please?

[ajnast4r]

How long did it take to notice first improvements? Does it cause (or worsen) fatigue or brainfog?

2 days... no increase in fatigue. it actually decreased my fatigue.

[health_nutty]

Thank you very much. I just placed an order after reading this. I've been in this anxiety/mild depression/stress kind of funk for a while. Magnesium has helped some as does upping my fish oil. Thanks for the suggestion.

May i ask where you bought it from and what brand please?

I bought "Doctor's Best" brand from iherb.com, but I don't think the brand matters all that much.

[ajnast4r]

i'm using dr's best as well... good quality and super cheap. 12$ for 200pills/5mg on iherb

[meursault]

I'm taking 20mg of lithium a day and it seems like it is just what I needed! My BP is down to normal, I'm much more mellow, and my mood is better. I feel much more even keeled. It feels like I had a lithium deficiency and this is correcting it.

You just needed something to help your brain deal with stress a little better. There is not lithium deficiency-it's not an essential nutrient, at least not essential at the dose your taking. That's great your having a positive response to it. I will be interested in seeing if this response continues. Hopefully it does.

This is arguable: http://www.jacn.org/...nt/full/21/1/14

[xzibit]

I take 5-10mg lithium orotate, i think it helps but its difficult to say, i'd should try the aspartate and see how it compares, i don't know who sells it though.
Good to hear lithium is working well for you all. One needs blood tests with the carbonate, though maybe not at 300mg

[Logan]

I take 5-10mg lithium orotate, i think it helps but its difficult to say, i'd should try the aspartate and see how it compares, i don't know who sells it though.
Good to hear lithium is working well for you all. One needs blood tests with the carbonate, though maybe not at 300mg

Solaray sells lithium aspartate.

http://www.google.co.....id|4455961661

[Logan]

Doctor's best also sells lithium aspartate

http://www.google.co...K3PhQiyMUciVoIg

[thevaughny]

Any meds or supps you shouldn't take with low dose lithium? OK to take other mind relaxing things like theanine... Also what about low dose beta blocker? (25mg atenolol)

Edited by thevaughny, 25 March 2010 - 09:36 PM.

[Logan]

Any meds or supps you shouldn't take with low dose lithium? OK to take other mind relaxing things like theanine... Also what about low dose beta blocker? (25mg atenolol)

Don't think you have to worry about mixing a low dose of lithium with these.

[nito]

http://www.iherb.com...lets/22628?at=0 this one is doctors best which cost brand $11.98
http://www.iherb.com...blets/6766?at=0 this one is nutrients carriers brand $15.22

They boh contain same stuff but the second one is cheaper, and also have 100 more comments with good rating, unlike doctors best which has 1 comment. Could this mean the second one might be more worthy of buying despite paying 3 dollars more?

Edited by nito, 26 March 2010 - 12:47 AM.

[xzibit]

Doctor's best also sells lithium aspartate

http://www.google.co...K3PhQiyMUciVoIg

Cheers, i'll check those out. I assume the carbonate would be a lot more beneficial/potent to the brain than other types? Not in high doses that is.

[Logan]

Doctor's best also sells lithium aspartate

http://www.google.co...K3PhQiyMUciVoIg

Cheers, i'll check those out. I assume the carbonate would be a lot more beneficial/potent to the brain than other types? Not in high doses that is.

I am pretty sure that lithium in the carbonate, aspartate, and orotate forms are all going to have the same amount of benefit. Some believe that the orotate form is more bioavailable and better absorbed, allowing for lower doses to be used with the same amount of elemental lithium reaching the bloodstream. This has yet to be proven. There is one rat study done back in 1978 I believe but there really needs to be more research and human studies.

Lithium Carbonate is the form that has been thoroughly studied and used over the years. So if you want to ask for a script of lithium carbonate and take 150 mg a day, I doubt you will have any toxicity issues. Not sure if a doctor will prescribe it to you for the reasons you want to take it. If you can afford it, Lithobid would be preferrably, it's the extended release version of lithium carbonate. It's also know to come with less side effects.

I imagine that at a certain dose, all of these forms of lithium would have the same potency/benefit. The question is, which one has the most benefit at the least toxic dose?

[thevaughny]

Any meds or supps you shouldn't take with low dose lithium? OK to take other mind relaxing things like theanine... Also what about low dose beta blocker? (25mg atenolol)

Don't think you have to worry about mixing a low dose of lithium with these.

OK thanks. I ordered some Lithium Orotate and have it ready when I get the courage to try it out. (Anxiety can also make one not want to try new things.)

[tintinet]

I'd not get too worked up about it. I've never noticed any effects from taking Lithium Orotate. (5 mg to 10 mg Lithium element/day).

[health_nutty]

Anxiety and mild depression is greatly helped by my lithium dosage. I'm not noticing any side effects at 20mg a day. Now the only time I really feel anxious is the first thing in the morning (presumably when my blood levels of lithium are the lowest). I seem to have crazy/stressful dreams a lot. Too bad I don't have lucid dreams every dream

[thevaughny]

Anxiety and mild depression is greatly helped by my lithium dosage. I'm not noticing any side effects at 20mg a day. Now the only time I really feel anxious is the first thing in the morning (presumably when my blood levels of lithium are the lowest). I seem to have crazy/stressful dreams a lot. Too bad I don't have lucid dreams every dream

Thanks for the info I am probably ready to try a bit. Probably won't go that dose at first. Did you/do you have any panic symptoms or above normal adrenaline responses? That's my main deal.

[health_nutty]

Anxiety and mild depression is greatly helped by my lithium dosage. I'm not noticing any side effects at 20mg a day. Now the only time I really feel anxious is the first thing in the morning (presumably when my blood levels of lithium are the lowest). I seem to have crazy/stressful dreams a lot. Too bad I don't have lucid dreams every dream

Thanks for the info I am probably ready to try a bit. Probably won't go that dose at first. Did you/do you have any panic symptoms or above normal adrenaline responses? That's my main deal.

My symptoms were mostly generalized anxiety more than acute panic attacks. Low level but constant worrying even though I know worrying doesn't do any good.

[nito]

Anxiety and mild depression is greatly helped by my lithium dosage. I'm not noticing any side effects at 20mg a day. Now the only time I really feel anxious is the first thing in the morning (presumably when my blood levels of lithium are the lowest). I seem to have crazy/stressful dreams a lot. Too bad I don't have lucid dreams every dream

Thanks for the info I am probably ready to try a bit. Probably won't go that dose at first. Did you/do you have any panic symptoms or above normal adrenaline responses? That's my main deal.

My symptoms were mostly generalized anxiety more than acute panic attacks. Low level but constant worrying even though I know worrying doesn't do any good.

I need some of this cus i seem to have the anxiety problems and the depression too. I have tried everything, perika, sjw, kira, etc and i still haven't found a favourite i can swear by!