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[RighteousReason]

On major issues, 48% of voters say that the average Tea Party member is closer to their views than President Barack Obama ... 44% hold the opposite view and believe the president’s views are closer to their own.

http://www.rasmussen...rty_48_obama_44

There is so much to say about this, but I'll just leave it at that for the moment.

[Alex Libman]

I was with the original modern tea party, which was created by Ron Paul supporters in 2007 before being hijacked by the neo-con frauds... That was America's last chance as far as I'm concerned. This country as a whole clearly will not move in the direction of individual liberty and free market capitalism. It's now time to look for those things elsewhere.

Edited by Alex Libman, 06 April 2010 - 02:35 AM.

[RighteousReason]

I was with the original modern tea party, which was created by Ron Paul supporters in 2007 before being hijacked by the neo-con frauds... That was America's last chance as far as I'm concerned. This country as a whole clearly will not move in the direction of individual liberty and free market capitalism. It's now time to look for those things elsewhere.

You are making the same mistake as the liberal media by grouping the Tea Parties with anything else. They are independent rallies by independent people... their only unifying theme is protest against government taxing, spending, and debt.

[Lester]

Awesome. I hope the Teabagging rabble believe their own press. Because they're in for a big surprise -- and even more impotent rage -- as America gets more and more progressive.

We have no time or patience for this pathetic movement.

[Alex Libman]

Awesome. I hope the Teabagging rabble believe their own press. Because they're in for a big surprise -- and even more impotent rage -- as America gets more and more progressive.

The American public opinion may also shift toward believing that 2 + 2 == 5, but their belief wouldn't change the fundamental laws of mathematics. It will simply leave America as an inferior place for intelligent people to live and work, with a new "greatest nation" being built somewhere else.

We have no time or patience for this pathetic movement.

You want to steal their money, violently control their lives, but you have no time or patience for them? What will you do if they just walk out of your reach?

The same thing any other socialist government must do when it can no longer keep its cattle from escaping to greener pastures - shrink and eventually collapse. Becoming an enclosed dungeon like North Korea only delays the inevitable. "The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of competent people to tax." You will not be able to keep all people brainwashed into your "divine right of democracy" religion for much longer, and the people you steal from the most will be waking up first. Sooner or later, Atlas will shrug!

Edited by Alex Libman, 06 April 2010 - 01:23 PM.

[khakiman]

i was getting very fed up with congress but finally they voted and now we can all move on with our lives. hell vote on immigration and pass some green laws! that is why i voted your dumb asses in.

[gregandbeaker]

I was with the original modern tea party, which was created by Ron Paul supporters in 2007 before being hijacked by the neo-con frauds... That was America's last chance as far as I'm concerned. This country as a whole clearly will not move in the direction of individual liberty and free market capitalism. It's now time to look for those things elsewhere.

Agreed. All of the original tea-party libertarians-types fled that movement when it changed from stop the war, stop the fed, stop the madness, into a bunch of birthers and racists. Where were all of these "patriots" when Bushy was sending American men and women into Iraq to die for his god-delusions? Healthcare is a drop in the bucket compared to the loss of blood, treasure, and liberty lost in the war on terror.

[Lester]

Awesome. I hope the Teabagging rabble believe their own press. Because they're in for a big surprise -- and even more impotent rage -- as America gets more and more progressive.

The American public opinion may also shift toward believing that 2 + 2 == 5, but their belief wouldn't change the fundamental laws of mathematics. It will simply leave America as an inferior place for intelligent people to live and work, with a new "greatest nation" being built somewhere else.

We have no time or patience for this pathetic movement.

You want to steal their money, violently control their lives, but you have no time or patience for them? What will you do if they just walk out of your reach?

The same thing any other socialist government must do when it can no longer keep its cattle from escaping to greener pastures - shrink and eventually collapse. Becoming an enclosed dungeon like North Korea only delays the inevitable. "The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of competent people to tax." You will not be able to keep all people brainwashed into your "divine right of democracy" religion for much longer, and the people you steal from the most will be waking up first. Sooner or later, Atlas will shrug!

America. Love it or leave it. Teabaggers are free to leave at any time.

Elections have consequences. Sorry, 'baggers, doesn't look like you can win at the ballot box. Better make plans to leave!!!! We'll do our best to survive withoutcha!

[khakiman]

btw i did vote democrat but i still believe the fed and the cia are completely corrupt and probably should be either dismantled or overhauled.

[RighteousReason]

Teabaggers, birthers, racists... it's the same mindless echo chamber.

I didn't mean for this thread to be a grand display of the Anti Tea Party hatred I was referring to, but there ya go... desperate, blind, irrational hatred. It is the same thing with talk radio show hosts. People feel this extreme, personal hatred but I have never seen anyone able to explain or justify this hatred with any reason or logic or in any real terms at all, just blind feelings justifying blind feelings, and when you do eventually drill down into their mind enough to reach any real substance, they notice they have entered into a realm of reality and logic and reason and it is clear they are unfamiliar and uncomfortable with it. I guess there really is no rational explanation at all... it's kind of sad. At some point (or many points) these people just drop whatever logic and reason is at their capacity and abandon any responsibility to think. And thus these bizarre, revolting symptoms emerge.

Edited by RighteousReason, 06 April 2010 - 05:04 PM.

[Lester]

Teabaggers, birthers, racists... it's the same mindless echo chamber.

I didn't mean for this thread to be a grand display of the Anti Tea Party hatred I was referring to, but there ya go... desperate, blind, irrational hatred. It is the same thing with talk radio show hosts. People feel this extreme, personal hatred but I have never seen anyone able to explain or justify this hatred with any reason or logic or in any real terms at all, just blind feelings justifying blind feelings, and when you do eventually drill down into their mind enough to reach any real substance, they notice they have entered into a realm of reality and logic and reason and it is clear they are unfamiliar and uncomfortable with it. I guess there really is no rational explanation at all... it's kind of sad. At some point (or many points) these people just drop whatever logic and reason is at their capacity and abandon any responsibility to think. And thus these bizarre, revolting symptoms emerge.

Teabaggers complaining about hatred? Seriously. THAT is rich. I know it's an overused sentiment, but Orwell would be impressed. I mean, REALLY impressed.

Congrats, you've set a new all-time record for irony with this screed.

Oh, and see u in November!!!!!!

[RighteousReason]

Teabaggers complaining about hatred? Seriously. THAT is rich

Seriously can you cite any single incident Tea Partiers were responsible for?

Andrew Breitbart has a $100,000 reward for any audio or video proving the N-word was hurled at the black Congressman who is fabricating the most recent example of this supposed Tea Party hate.

http://bigjournalism...struct-america/

Edited by RighteousReason, 06 April 2010 - 07:26 PM.

[Lester]

Teabaggers complaining about hatred? Seriously. THAT is rich

Seriously can you cite any single incident Tea Partiers were responsible for?

Andrew Breitbart has a $100,000 reward for any audio or video proving the N-word was hurled at the black Congressman who is fabricating the most recent example of this supposed Tea Party hate.

http://bigjournalism...struct-america/

*eyeroll*

OK, the Tea Party isn't angry at all! They're totally civil! Always calm, articulate, composed and rational!

You think I'm going to waste time on some online war? My goal is winning in 2010. Donating time and money to DEMOCRATIC candidates.

I have to admit, now I know why right wingers enjoy "pissing off liberals" - I'm kinda enjoying "pissing off 'baggers."

Hey, keep up the internet fires, it's really important. But DEMOCRATS will control the House, Senate and White House in 2010. And 2012. And 2016. That's where my crystal ball gets hazy.

Toodles!

*smooch!*

[Alex Libman]

America. Love it or leave it. Teabaggers are free to leave at any time.

You've got to be kidding me. Do you seriously not have the slightest clue on what it takes to give up your citizenship?! Faking your own death is much easier!

Elections have consequences.

Only in your delusional mind. It's like Two Face from Batman flipping a coin to decide how he's going to kill you...

Better make plans to leave!!!! We'll do our best to survive withoutcha!

Only until our property, that you obviously will not permit us to leave with, runs out.

Oh, and see u in November!!!!!!

Rational people only vote with their feet.

[Lester]

Shoot, I forgot to wish everyone a Happy Easter!

[RighteousReason]

Teabaggers complaining about hatred? Seriously. THAT is rich

Seriously can you cite any single incident Tea Partiers were responsible for?

Andrew Breitbart has a $100,000 reward for any audio or video proving the N-word was hurled at the black Congressman who is fabricating the most recent example of this supposed Tea Party hate.

http://bigjournalism...struct-america/

OK, the Tea Party isn't angry at all! They're totally civil! Always calm, articulate, composed and rational!

Yeah they are angry. Yeah they are totally civil, always calm, articulate, composed, and rational. Have you ever actually been to a Tea Party? The only irrational, uncivil, inarticulate people I witnessed last tax day were a group of black women driving by screaming mindlessly "Obama! Obama! Obama!" and flicking everyone off... the Tea Partiers were entirely composed, the only response I saw from anybody was from me, pointing and laughing at them, everybody else just sort of looked at them.

I saw nothing in your response about my challenge for you to name any incident from any Tea Party.

Edited by RighteousReason, 06 April 2010 - 09:12 PM.

[RighteousReason]

Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics

http://www.gallup.co...mographics.aspx

In several respects -- their age, educational background, employment status, and race -- Tea Partiers are quite representative of the public at large.

Comparable percents of White/Black/Hispanic as general population -- see link for graph


Politically:

Republican: 49%
Independent: 43%
Democrat: 8%

Edited by RighteousReason, 06 April 2010 - 10:48 PM.

[Lester]

Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics

http://www.gallup.co...mographics.aspx

In several respects -- their age, educational background, employment status, and race -- Tea Partiers are quite representative of the public at large.

Comparable percents of White/Black/Hispanic as general population -- see link for graph


Politically:

Republican: 49%
Independent: 43%
Democrat: 8%

This was a particularly touching example of the Tea Partiers' humanity and decency:

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

[RighteousReason]

Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics

http://www.gallup.co...mographics.aspx

In several respects -- their age, educational background, employment status, and race -- Tea Partiers are quite representative of the public at large.

Comparable percents of White/Black/Hispanic as general population -- see link for graph


Politically:

Republican: 49%
Independent: 43%
Democrat: 8%

This was a particularly touching example of the Tea Partiers' humanity and decency:

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

Right... real reputable source there, youtube. I don't believe it for a second.

Who Painted The Swastika Outside David Scott's Office? Probably A Liberal

There are plenty of ignorant people in the world and some of them are on the Right. So, whenever a noose is hung, a swastika's drawn, a flyer is put up with the wrong date for an election in a black area, etc, etc, it is entirely possible that someone on the Right is responsible.

However, the flip side of that is that race hoaxes have grown very common over the years. Somebody finds a noose hung on his door or an N-bomb in a letter, and suddenly there's an outpouring of sympathy. A number of unscrupulous liberals have figured this out and they've moved beyond simply falsely accusing their enemies of racism to actually faking racist acts to generate sympathy.

For example, here's lefty Clarence Page writing about race hoaxes back in 2007:

A student at George Washington University recently complained that swastikas were scrawled on her dormitory door. Thanks to cameras hidden by university police, they have a suspect: The student who filed the complaint.
I was shocked but not surprised, just as I am shocked but not surprised when, with thousands of cars on the road, some get into accidents. Similarly with the recent upsurge in national attention to swastikas, nooses and other racial vandalism in public places, I am shocked but not surprised that at least one case of racial-ethnic vandalism turns out to be phony.

....Last year, for example, Trinity International University near Deerfield, Ill., evacuated some classes after anonymous letters threatened minority students with gunfire. A black female 20-year-old student was eventually convicted of felony disorderly conduct and ordered into counseling for creating the letters. Police told the Chicago Tribune that she had been unhappy at the school and hoped the threats would persuade her parents to let her leave.

Three years earlier at Northwestern University, a student who described himself as biracial admitted to putting anti-Hispanic graffiti on a wall near his dorm room and filing a false report of racial harassment and a knife attack.

In 2003 three black freshmen were accused at the University of Mississippi of writing racial graffiti on the doors of two other black students' rooms and on walls on three floors of the residence hall. Among their obscenities and racial epithets, their scrawls included a tree with a noose and a hanging stick figure.

Again, I was shocked but not surprised to hear of these episodes and others. I am only surprised when other people sound surprised. People file false police reports for various reasons. Why should we be surprised that some might file false hate crime reports just to get a rise out of other people?

...Nevertheless, as we take incidents of racial vandalism seriously, our seriousness should include a dose of healthy skepticism. Overreaction only rewards the troubled souls who commit such offenses in the first place, whatever their sick reasons might be. They don't deserve that satisfaction.

Beyond the incidents Page cited in that column, there have been dozens of others in recent years -- but, I want to talk about what may or may not be the latest racial hoax, a swastika being spray painted at David Scott's office,

A Georgia congressman who faced down a rowdy town hall meeting last week found his office vandalized Tuesday with a swastika painted over the official congressional sign.
Rep. David Scott told FOX News that the swastika spray-painted in black on his office door in Smyrna, Ga., is about four feet wide.

Cobb County police were informed and a report was filed with the U.S. Capitol Police and the FBI. David Johnson, Scott's district director, said the Capitol Police are handling this incident as a hate crime.

...However, Scott told FOX Business Network on Monday that the opponents to health care were manufactured, and he accused the audience members of having a racial undertone in the debate.

"There were tea baggers all around the place," the congressman said of the meeting, later holding up a flier with a picture of a now infamous poster of President Obama styled as The Joker from the Batman movie series.

"If you look at this, that's a picture of President Barack Obama," Scott said holding up the sign. "He's grinning there like he's the clown from Batman. Underneath that it says, 'N---a, n---a David Scott. It says you were, and you are, and you always forever shall be but a n---a.' If that ain't it I don't know what is.

Let's see, you have a Congressman who loves to play the race card and a controversial health care debate that the Left is losing. If you're a liberal, painting a swastika on his door might look like a pretty good idea. "See, Nancy Pelosi was right! They are Nazis! Plus, they're racists! You don't want to support people like that, do you? Great, then just support socialized medicine!"

To conclude, I'm not going to say this was a hoax and that liberals were behind it, although I will say something that libs often did during the Bush years: Who benefits from this? It sure isn't the people who are trying to prevent our health care system from being destroyed. With that in mind, I would just encourage people to wait until the police make an arrest before making a judgment about who's really responsible for this.

Even if it was real, I saw nothing like that at the Tea Party I went to and it is not representative of the core of the Tea Party movement -- as you have seen the demographics of the Tea Party are quite representative of the country at large (just not so many Democrats obviously). In any group of people there are fringe nutjobs, so it is actually quite amazing that out of the thousands of protests comprised of millions of people that so few incidents (or none at all) have even happened. You would expect just based on the prior probability of getting a bunch of people together, for anything, to have some frequency of incidents, and generally higher if that grouping is in any way related to politics or protesting.

This labeling of Tea Partiers as hateful and racist is a flat lie. It is a lie that has been echoed from person to person in the mindless mainstream media echo chamber without the slightest shred of evidence.



As Neal Boortz predicted prior to Obama taking office-- the media will find anybody that disagrees with Obama now, no matter their reasons or explanations, no matter who they are what they disagree about, is certainly without a doubt a racist. And any voicing of their disagreement is obviously hate speech.

Edited by RighteousReason, 06 April 2010 - 11:30 PM.

[Lester]

Right... real reputable source there, youtube. I don't believe it for a second.

Wait - now it's Youtube's fault the Teapartiers are caught ON CAMERA being complete and utter inhuman scum? Congrats - these arguments get more and more pathetic by the moment.

God, I can't wait to CRUSH this vile, mean, despicable "movement" at the ballot box. The Teapartiers will be left fondling their little guns and dreaming... and that's about it.

Oh, and for the record: that Teaparty scum who threw the money at the Parkinson's patient (a nuclear engineer, btw), actually had the decency to look at his life and publicly apologize.

And no, I'm not going to find the story just to hear yet another insane excuse.

[Lester]

Some touching Teabag signs... *waits to hear the excuses... 'photoshop!' 'imaginary!' 'unrepresentative!'*

[Lester]

And more great, classy Teaparty signs:

[Lester]

MORE Teabagger signs.

What wonderful, educated, CARING Americans!

[Lester]

More Teabagger signs.

Excuses?

[RighteousReason]

Nice... pretty fuckin funny

This is my favorite so far:


The Obama-Joker is truly genius:

Edited by RighteousReason, 07 April 2010 - 01:54 AM.

[RighteousReason]

Edited by RighteousReason, 07 April 2010 - 02:15 AM.

[Lester]

Nice... pretty fuckin funny

Yep. Confirmed it.

Teabaggers are hatefilled pigs.

That's ok. We can use you to kill what remains of American conservatism.

Enjoy your cackling laughter and hate-signs! We'll keep crushing you at the ballot box.

Looking forward to Single Payer health in a few years, Teabagger.

[RighteousReason]

Teabaggers are hatefilled pigs.

Yeah I guess if we wanted to use your terminology... we can think of some more "hatefilled pigs"...

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Benjamin Franklin
John Adams
James Madison
Alexander Hamilton

[Alex Libman]

Teabaggers are hatefilled pigs.

IF that is true, then you are a parasite violently feeding on "hatefilled pigs" and refusing to let go of their teets no matter how much they try to resist. Which is worse?

You ask for their subjugation. They ask nothing of you except that you stop initiating violence against them!

[Putz]

Most teapartiers are nice people that simply believe that government is making more and more markets and the sectors of life associated inefficient and costly while increasing taxes to pay for that inefficient distortion. Now, some do not understand the issues that well, shown by this funny video of an anarcho-capitalist libertarian joining a tea party protest and being shouted down as "ACORN".