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#121 DukeNukem

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 02:17 AM

What Xanadu said.

I personally take about 90-100mg of resveratrol daily, most of it via two caps of Longevinex (one morning, one night). There's gotta be something good about, because people have clearly benefited from wine intake (a.k.a. grape extract). Bill Sardi explains how resveratrol is more bioavailable than many people have credited, somewhere on his site, pointing out studies. Bottom-line, there's too much anecdotal evidence, and the potential benefits are simply too great -- I predict anyone not taking this stuff will one day regret not getting started sooner. This is definitely one supplement where you want to be an early adopter.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 02:53 AM

http://www.longevine..._shelf_life.jpg
According to the test commissioned by Longevinex, other resveratrol products contained an everage of 74% trans resveratrol. One product was 91% trans, while Longevinex averaged 96%. If these results are reliable, they suggest that resveratrol is shelf-stable.

BTW, I did contact AOR some time ago to ask if OrthoCore has been evaluated for resveratrol stability. The answer is no.

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#123 Matt

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 08:01 AM

I want to see what effects it has on my lipids anyway... I really want HDL to go much higher than it is at the moment. Heres my lipids now and TC = 109mg
HDL = 39mg/dl - LDL cholesterol 58 mg/dl - Triglycerides = 53mg/dl and we'll see what happens in two months time after resveratrol supplementation

#124 zoolander

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 11:18 AM

There are many things in wine that may benefit health. At the moment research shows that resveratrol is poorly, if at all, absorbed by humans so why are people so convinced that it works despite the current evidence.

I know that longevinex is susposed to be releasing the results of a study using resveratrol but until they do so and until that study shows benefits to humans then it's all marketing hype to me

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 12:23 PM

I know quite a few people that have taken resveratrol and had their HDL go up into the 70s, 80, even 90s!... I consider that significant, for preventing heart disease at least. I reckon duke is right, theres nothing wrong with being skeptical, but I personally think scientist tend to be too skeptical with these sorts of things. When scientists were using resveratrol in different species (that had their lifespan extended), they were probably skeptical of the results they would get and may of thought it would have no effect on lifespan at all. Science is loaded with false hopes, but I guess you just have to take a chance sometimes, and go with what you feel is right.

For me this resveratrol thing is just a little experiment at the moment to see what effects it has on various health markers. As I already do Calorie Restriction for two years now, I doubt I would probably get any added benifit from taking it longterm.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 02:55 PM

I know quite a few people that have taken resveratrol and had their HDL go up into the 70s, 80, even 90s!... I consider that significant, for preventing heart disease at least.


The problem with making conclusions based on testimonials i.e what happened with your friends, is that what they did is not very tightly controlled. Scientific research generally is and hence eliminates potential compounding factors.

Science is loaded with false hopes, but I guess you just have to take a chance sometimes, and go with what you feel is right.


HOw did you finally decide to go on a CR diet Matt? Science? or heresay? Come on, you say that science is loaded on false hopes yet you donate money to scientific research. ??

People seem to be clutching a straws. For now, I will continue to feed my pet mouse resveratrol but won't waste my money taking it myself. And please, when the research finally does show benefit in humans, I totally expect everyone to say "I told you so!"

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 03:51 PM

The problem with making conclusions based on testimonials i.e what happened with your friends, is that what they did is not very tightly controlled. Scientific research generally is and hence eliminates potential compounding factors.


At what point would you personally decide to take resveratrol? When it may show to extend average and/or maximum lifespan in humans? Scientific evidence that it lowers risk of various diseases in humans?

How did you finally decide to go on a CR diet Matt? Science? or heresay?


I did do quite a lot of researching on it before I started, read many published paperes, read walfords books and so on... I guess I started CR because I really believe that it will have a huge impact on longevity, and also to prevent autoimmune disease which quite a lot of my mothers side of the family have developed in their 30's - 40's, they all have dreadful diets, but still... My father side are mostly extremely young looking (look decades younger) and have very impressive health markers for their age (regardless of diet), my aunti especially, who happens to drink a glass or two of red wine everyday for a long time now. I also seem to have inherited the attributes of my father side luckily.

But CR is so easy to do also, so why not do it?

Come on, you say that science is loaded on false hopes yet you donate money to scientific research.??


Well I trust aubrey and I think hes put forward the best plan yet, rather than watching i'd rather contribute what I can.

People seem to be clutching a straws.


For me resvveratrol is a short experiment right now, nothing long term planned, and I never paid for them, I had them sent to me for free.

For now, I will continue to feed my pet mouse resveratrol but won't waste my money taking it myself. And please, when the research finally does show benefit in humans, I totally expect everyone to say "I told you so!"


And if still nothing comes along when those wrinkles show up, grey hair and other signs of aging? Right now a few of us here are probably young enough and do not need to take drastic measures to increase our lifespan by whatever amount. Just eat healthy. But what if it doesn't turn out how we hope? Thats why I do CR, what if it takes much longer, I want to still be physiologically young rather than old and frail when future aging reversal therapies may come along.

I take note of what aubrey de grey said, he said that initially therapies may only be able to bring you back a few decades when you are old but still quite healthy, but not when you are very frail and on the brink of death.

But you do what you feel is best for you, i'm sure you are already taking appropiate measures by exercising and eating more healthily :)

Edited by Matt, 29 September 2006 - 06:07 PM.


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Posted 29 September 2006 - 05:56 PM

I know quite a few people that have taken resveratrol and had their HDL go up into the 70s, 80, even 90s!...

I've said before that the reason to take resveratrol is NOT the CR-like extension that might be a benefit. If that's a benefit then it's pure gravy for me. What I'm most concerned about are the benefits to the vascular system.

My HDL hovers between 70-80, btw. Have no idea if resveratrol is a factor. It used to be around 35 a few years ago, and now that I think back it started going up when I started taking Longevinex or thereabouts. Still, I would not attribute the HDL rise to resveratrol with confidence, as I'm always fine-tuning my diet and supplement program, and who knows what other factors may have been involved for the HDL rise.

Resveratrol appears to be one of those miracle polyphenols, along with tea's EGCG, and blueberry's pterostilbene, and several others. However, I would never recommend taking these molecules alone -- only with as a whole fruit/berry/leaf supplement. The synergistic effects within each plant likely play an important role in the benefits attributed to the key polyphenols.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 06:12 PM

Resveratrol: Regardless of whether or not some of the data is exaggerated, I think there is reason for some optimism and I don't think it could be unsafe (unless you are taking cheap Polygonum cuspidatum extract)...it's just a question of one's budget as far as I can see. Most companies I've seen sell Polygonum cuspidatum extract, not real resveratrol.

This recent report indicates that mice given the equivalent of a couple of glasses of wine a day deliver benefits in the form of slowed memory loss and brain cell death...if it's not resveratrol doing this, then what is? I'd sure like to know.

I don't know what kind of benefits you guys are expecting, but we can't expect to see a new human lifespan study to be published tomorrow comparing a resveratrol and non resveratrol group -- that kind of research is EXPENSIVE...and, as far as I know, all the health claims about this compound have already been established, so no one can patent it...thus, there is little or no incentive to conduct such research...so...

If you can afford it, just make sure it's trans resveratrol NOT Polygonum cuspidatum extract, then throw it down the hatch...I think this might have been a misprint, but Ray Kurzweil wrote in his co authored book with some other Dr. dude that he takes 400mg/day. 400 mg/day? That's an awfully large dose!

The question is, then, if resveratrol has a low bioavailablity, what's the best dose? We could find out by selecting a diverse group of "healthy individuals," give them each a different dose, and take several blood samples and measure the plasma resveratrol levels at different times....(after 1h, 2h, 3h, etc.)...then we could measure resveratrol levels of a group that just drank red wine...measure the differences between the two groups, and SHA BAM! I guess. [tung]

Edited by nootropikamil, 29 September 2006 - 06:38 PM.


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Posted 29 September 2006 - 06:38 PM

What would be interesting if there were a study set up where resveratrol was given to 60 - 70 and 80 year olds and see what effect it has on mortality. Results wouldn't take too long either.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 06:51 PM

It appears the real issue is: how can you ensure your supplier delivers REAL trans resveratrol? I don't think Consumerlab.com has ever tested resveratrol supplements for impurities or trans content...maybe they should...it's too easy for suppliers to "claim" trans and just use cheap Polygonum cuspidatum extract...much more profits that way...

I guess we're back to requesting COAs... :)

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 06:57 PM

This recent report indicates that mice given the equivalent of a couple of glasses of wine a day deliver benefits in the form of slowed memory loss and brain cell death...if it's not resveratrol doing this, then what is?  I'd sure like to know.


As has been stated, wine contains other compounds that may influence health other than resveratrol (quercetin, for example). I still don't think that we can rule out alcohol as a possible health-boosting substance, atleast for most people.

On the ethanol part, nevermind. I just read the link and apparently it didn't factor in to the results of this study. Doesn't really change my opinion, though.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 07:07 PM

Just eat a lot of red grapes and you are scot free. I eat them almost every day plus taking ortho core which gives me about .8 mg res every day. Grapes are food and are good for you plus you get the resveratrol along with it. Saying you won't touch it because the proof hasn't been certified or something is leaning over backwards to be a sceptic or to be negative. Arey you going to avoid grapes and red wine also to keep away from the health effects? We will chant 'I told you so' in unison when the proof comes in. Actually, there is enough proof of it's benefits already so I'll do it ahead of time

I TOLD YOU SO!!

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 07:45 PM

Grapes are food and are good for you plus you get the resveratrol along with it.

I wonder how much resveratrol is in the average grape, and how bio-available it is? I wonder if wine, due to its processing, is a far more concentrated, bio-available source. Kind of like how tomatoes are a poor source for lypocene, versus cooked tomato sauce.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 08:20 PM

I wonder how much resveratrol is in the average grape, and how bio-available it is?  I wonder if wine, due to its processing, is a far more concentrated, bio-available source.  Kind of like how tomatoes are a poor source for lypocene, versus cooked tomato sauce.


According to Sardi, anyway, this is the case. I don't remember his exact reasoning or research/citations for it, though.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 08:39 PM

I don't think it could be unsafe (unless you are taking cheap Polygonum cuspidatum extract)... Most companies I've seen sell Polygonum cuspidatum extract, not real resveratrol.


Why would knotweed resveratrol be unsafe or less effective?

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 09:39 PM

Yeah, I'd like to see some evidence for that =/

#138 zoolander

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 08:04 AM

At what point would you personally decide to take resveratrol?


I was faced with another question because I was taking resveratrol and reading research showing poor bioavailability in humans. I did some more reading and asked at what point do I stop taking resveratrol?

And if still nothing comes along when those wrinkles show up, grey hair and other signs of aging?


Well at the moment with the current position of research I think we all need to accept that the wrinkles, grey hair and other signs of aging will be a natural part of growing older.

Regardless of whether or not some of the data is exaggerated, I think there is reason for some optimism and I don't think it could be unsafe (unless you are taking cheap Polygonum cuspidatum extract)...it's just a question of one's budget as far as I can see.



I totally agree Adam

This recent report indicates that mice given the equivalent of a couple of glasses of wine a day deliver benefits in the form of slowed memory loss and brain cell death...if it's not resveratrol doing this, then what is? I'd sure like to know.


There is no doubt in my mind that resveratrol is possibly the next best thing since sliced bread as far as supplements go. However, quote as many animal studies as you like, this will not make a difference because most human studies show poor bioavailability.

The question is, then, if resveratrol has a low bioavailablity, what's the best dose? We could find out by selecting a diverse group of "healthy individuals," give them each a different dose, and take several blood samples and measure the plasma resveratrol levels at different times....(after 1h, 2h, 3h, etc.)...then we could measure resveratrol levels of a group that just drank red wine...measure the differences between the two groups, and SHA BAM! I guess


Please refer to one of my previous posts here.

The paper I attached to that post looks at what you mentioned Adam.

Saying you won't touch it because the proof hasn't been certified or something is leaning over backwards to be a sceptic or to be negative. Arey you going to avoid grapes and red wine also to keep away from the health effects? We will chant 'I told you so' in unison when the proof comes in. Actually, there is enough proof of it's benefits already so I'll do it ahead of time


Can you please show me the evidence that shows benefit from resveratrol supplementation with humans? I'm not talking about eating grapes or drinking red wine, I am talking about buying a supplement used specifically for it's resveatrol content. Would you take ATP supplements or eat isolated mitochondria because of the possible benefits should they be available to the functioning cell, even though there is evidence to show that the body cannot utilise either? Look, resveratrol looks good on the books but at the moment it's practically useless to humans unless absorbed in massive doses.

please if you have some time have a look at the paperr I provided.

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 01:12 PM

Thank you for sharing that zoolander

You state that due to poor bioavailability (which is correct), is one reason why one should not take it yet in the conclusion it states:

"Conclusions
In mammals, there is growing evidence that resveratrol
can prevent or delay the onset of cancer, heart disease,
ischaemic and chemically induced injuries, diabetes,
pathological inflammation and viral infection. These
effects are observed despite extremely low bioavailability
and rapid clearance from the circulation."


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Posted 30 September 2006 - 02:37 PM

Apparently, there is some evidence that quercetin increases the bioavailability of resveratrol. I'm wondering whether Bioperine would interfere with the metabolism of resveratrol and increase bioavailability. I suppose this depends on the metabolic pathway for res. Any thoughts?

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 06:51 PM

I take grape seed extract in addition to the resveratrol in my ortho core plus the red grapes I eat. That's 3 sources of res and I figure that should do it.

Duke wrote:

"I wonder how much resveratrol is in the average grape, and how bio-available it is? I wonder if wine, due to its processing, is a far more concentrated, bio-available source. Kind of like how tomatoes are a poor source for lypocene, versus cooked tomato sauce."

Perhaps its more available in the form of grapes than in wine? Since we have no evidence, either theory is equally possible.

zoo, you are out in left field.

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Posted 01 October 2006 - 05:17 AM

I don't mind being out in left field.

I'm expressing my views on resveratrol supplementation. At the moment I cannot justify adding it into my personal regime

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 01:13 PM

Ghostrider provided an interesting link in antoher thread dealing with some of the questions being asked here, interviewing David Sinclair from Harvard, one of the prominent researchers on life-extension and CR genetics, and in fact one of the authors on the paper on reseveratrol provided by zoolander.

http://www.pbs.org/n...h05/aging3.html

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Resveratrol is not an easy molecule to protect from oxidation. Most commercially available supplements I have tested have no ability to stimulate SIR2 enzymes.

How about red wine? First, I should say that resveratrol influences many proteins that are linked to better health, not only SIR2. But can a glass of red wine provide enough resveratrol? Based on the older studies, the answer is a resounding "no." This is still the prevailing view. After drinking red wine, levels of resveratrol in blood barely reach the concentrations thought to be required for SIR2 activation, and, what's more, resveratrol is processed by the liver into a variety of different forms within about 15 minutes of entering the bloodstream.

That said, I am no longer dismissive of the idea that we get enough of these molecules in our diet. For example, recent work by my lab and others show that we may only need trace amounts of resveratrol to protect our cells from death and damage (250 nM). These levels might be achievable by drinking red wine. What's more, resveratrol's processed forms -- which circulate in our bodies over nine hours -- might also be bioactive.


Resveratrol, one of the best life-extending molecules in lower organisms, is concentrated in red wine because of the extraction process and its storage in a dark air-tight container. Only trace amounts are found in grape juice.

Quercetin, a similar looking molecule, is in apples and onions. Head for wines and foods that have been stressed before, during or after harvesting. Avoid plants that have been pampered or products that have been exposed to light or air for long periods, since they are often light- and oxygen-sensitive.



#144 xanadu

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 08:52 PM

From opales' article

" recent work by my lab and others show that we may only need trace amounts of resveratrol to protect our cells from death and damage (250 nM). These levels might be achievable by drinking red wine. What's more, resveratrol's processed forms -- which circulate in our bodies over nine hours -- might also be bioactive."

Just as I suspected, it is needed but in small amounts. No need to take 100mg per day. Some grapes or red wine will do or a milligram or so in supplement form.

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 04:15 AM

trans-Resveratrol, a natural antioxidant from grapes, increases sperm output in healthy rats.

* Juan ME,
* Gonzalez-Pons E,
* Munuera T,
* Ballester J,
* Rodriguez-Gil JE,
* Planas JM.

Departament de Fisiologia, Facultat de Farmacia, Universitat de Barcelona, E-08028 Barcelona, Spain.

trans-Resveratrol was reported to have health benefits including anticarcinogenic effects and protection against cardiovascular disease. One of the mechanisms by which it exerts its action is through modulating the estrogen response systems. Because estrogen is involved in male reproductive biology, we investigated the effect of trans-resveratrol on testis and spermatogenesis. Adult male rats were divided into 2 groups. The treated group was administered by gavage 20 mg/(kg . d) of trans-resveratrol suspended in 10 g/L of carboxymethylcellulose for 90 d, whereas the control group received only carboxymethylcellulose during the same period. The relative weight of testes did not differ between the groups. However, the diameter of the seminiferous tubules was significantly reduced from 437.5 +/- 0.1 mum in the controls to 310.9 +/- 0.1 mum in the resveratrol-treated rats. This decrease was accompanied by a significant increase in tubular density, from 3.20 +/- 0.18 in controls to 6.58 +/- 0.18 tubules/mm(2) in the treated group. Moreover, sperm counts were significantly greater in the resveratrol-treated rats (24.8 +/- 3.30 x 10(7)) than in the control group (14.1 +/- 0.80 x 10(7)), but sperm quality did not differ. Serum concentrations of gonadotrophins and testosterone were significantly higher in the resveratrol-treated group. We identified a novel activity of trans-resveratrol. The daily oral administration of this phytochemical to adult male rats enhanced sperm production by stimulating the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis, without inducing adverse effects.

Read the full study here: http://jn.nutrition..../full/135/4/757

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Posted 14 October 2006 - 02:11 AM

Sounds like an interesting supplement. The one study on the fish dying early after supplementation - should this worry us at all?

#147 DukeNukem

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Posted 14 October 2006 - 02:52 PM

The one study on the fish dying early after supplementation - should this worry us at all?

Have fish been safely drinking wine for 2000+ years?

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Posted 14 October 2006 - 08:01 PM

Have fish been safely drinking wine for 2000+ years?


LOL.

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Posted 01 November 2006 - 07:27 AM

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Jeff Miller/University of Wisconsin-Madison

Canto, left, a rhesus monkey, is aging fairly well at 25 on a calorie restriction diet. Owen, though only a year older than Canto, is frail and moves slowly. He eats a normal diet.

New York Times
October 31, 2006
One for the Ages: A Prescription That May Extend Life
By MICHAEL MASON
How depressing, how utterly unjust, to be the one in your social circle who is aging least gracefully.

In a laboratory at the Wisconsin National Primate Research Center, Matthias is learning about time’s caprice the hard way. At 28, getting on for a rhesus monkey, Matthias is losing his hair, lugging a paunch and getting a face full of wrinkles.

Yet in the cage next to his, gleefully hooting at strangers, one of Matthias’s lab mates, Rudy, is the picture of monkey vitality, although he is slightly older. Thin and feisty, Rudy stops grooming his smooth coat just long enough to pirouette toward a proffered piece of fruit.

Tempted with the same treat, Matthias rises wearily and extends a frail hand. “You can really see the difference,” said Dr. Ricki Colman, an associate scientist at the center who cares for the animals.

What a visitor cannot see may be even more interesting. As a result of a simple lifestyle intervention, Rudy and primates like him seem poised to live very long, very vital lives.

This approach, called calorie restriction, involves eating about 30 percent fewer calories than normal while still getting adequate amounts of vitamins, minerals and other nutrients. Aside from direct genetic manipulation, calorie restriction is the only strategy known to extend life consistently in a variety of animal species.

How this drastic diet affects the body has been the subject of intense research. Recently, the effort has begun to bear fruit, producing a steady stream of studies indicating that the rate of aging is plastic, not fixed, and that it can be manipulated.

In the last year, calorie-restricted diets have been shown in various animals to affect molecular pathways likely to be involved in the progression of Alzheimer’s disease, diabetes, heart disease, Parkinson’s disease and cancer. Earlier this year, researchers studying dietary effects on humans went so far as to claim that calorie restriction may be more effective than exercise at preventing age-related diseases.

Monkeys like Rudy seem to be proving the thesis. Recent tests show that the animals on restricted diets, including Canto and Eeyore, two other rhesus monkeys at the primate research center, are in indisputably better health as they near old age than Matthias and other normally fed lab mates like Owen and Johann. The average lifespan for laboratory monkeys is 27.

The findings cast doubt on long-held scientific and cultural beliefs regarding the inevitability of the body’s decline. They also suggest that other interventions, which include new drugs, may retard aging even if the diet itself should prove ineffective in humans. One leading candidate, a newly synthesized form of resveratrol — an antioxidant present in large amounts in red wine — is already being tested in patients. It may eventually be the first of a new class of anti-aging drugs. Extrapolating from recent animal findings, Dr. Richard A. Miller, a pathologist at the University of Michigan, estimated that a pill mimicking the effects of calorie restriction might increase human life span to about 112 healthy years, with the occasional senior living until 140, though some experts view that projection as overly optimistic.

According to a report by the Rand Corporation, such a drug would be among the most cost-effective breakthroughs possible in medicine, providing Americans more healthy years at less expense (an estimated $8,800 a year) than new cancer vaccines or stroke treatments.


“The effects are global, so calorie restriction has the potential to help us identify anti-aging mechanisms throughout the body,” said Richard Weindruch, a gerontologist at the University of Wisconsin who directs research on the monkeys.

Many scientists regard the study of life extension, once just a reliable plotline in science fiction, as a national priority. The number of Americans 65 and older will double in the next 25 years to about 72 million, according to government census data. By then, seniors will account for nearly 20 percent of the population, up from just 12 percent in 2003.


Earlier this year, four prominent gerontologists, among them Dr. Miller, published a paper calling for the government to spend $3 billion annually in pursuit of a modest goal: delaying the onset of age-related diseases by seven years.

Doing so, the authors asserted, would lay the foundation for a healthier and wealthier country, a so-called longevity dividend.

“The demographic wave entering their 60s is enormous, and that is likely to greatly increase the prevalence of diseases like diabetes and heart disease,” said Dr. S. Jay Olshansky, an epidemiologist at the University of Illinois at Chicago, and one of the paper’s authors. “The simplest way to positively affect them all is to slow down aging.”

Science, of course, is still a long way from doing anything of the sort. Aging is a complicated phenomenon, the intersection of an array of biological processes set in motion by genetics, lifestyle, even evolution itself.

Still, in laboratories around the world, scientists are becoming adept at breeding animal Methuselahs, extraordinarily long lived and healthy worms, fish, mice and flies.

In 1935, Dr. Clive McCay, a nutritionist at Cornell University, discovered that mice that were fed 30 percent fewer calories lived about 40 percent longer than their free-grazing laboratory mates. The dieting mice were also more physically active and far less prone to the diseases of advanced age.

Dr. McCay’s experiment has been successfully duplicated in a variety of species. In almost every instance, the subjects on low-calorie diets have proven to be not just longer lived, but also more resistant to age-related ailments.

“In mice, calorie restriction doesn’t just extend life span,” said Leonard P. Guarente, professor of biology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “It mitigates many diseases of aging: cancer, cardiovascular disease, neurodegenerative disease. The gain is just enormous.”

For years, scientists financed by the National Institute on Aging have closely monitored rhesus monkeys on restricted and normal-calorie diets. At the University of Wisconsin, where 50 animals survive from the original group of 76, the differences are just now becoming apparent in the older animals.


Those on normal diets, like Matthias, are beginning to show signs of advancing age similar to those seen in humans. Three of them, for instance, have developed diabetes, and a fourth has died of the disease. Five have died of cancer.

But Rudy and his colleagues on low-calorie meal plans are faring better. None have diabetes, and only three have died of cancer. It is too early to know if they will outlive their lab mates, but the dieters here and at the other labs also have lower blood pressure and lower blood levels of certain dangerous fats, glucose and insulin.

“The preliminary indicators are that we’re looking at a robust life extension in the restricted animals,” Dr. Weindruch said.

Despite widespread scientific enthusiasm, the evidence that calorie restriction works in humans is indirect at best. The practice was popularized in diet books by Dr. Roy Walford, a legendary pathologist at the University of California, Los Angeles, who spent much of the last 30 years of his life following a calorie-restricted regimen. He died of Lou Gehrig’s disease in 2004 at 79.


Largely as a result of his advocacy, several thousand people are now on calorie-restricted diets in the United States, says Brian M. Delaney, president of the Calorie Restriction Society.

Mike Linksvayer, a 36-year-old chief technology officer at a San Francisco nonprofit group, embarked on just such a diet six years ago. On an average day, he eats an apple or some cereal for breakfast, followed by a small vegan dish at lunch. Dinner is whatever his wife has cooked, excluding bread, rice, sugar and whatever else Mr. Linksvayer deems unhealthy (this often includes the entrée). On weekends, he occasionally fasts.

Mr. Linksvayer, 6 feet tall and 135 pounds, estimated that he gets by on about 2,000 to 2,100 calories a day, a low number for men of his age and activity level, and his blood pressure is a remarkably low 112 over 63. He said he has never been in better health.

“I don’t really get sick,” he said. “Mostly I do the diet to be healthier, but if it helps me live longer, hey, I’ll take that, too.”

Researchers at Washington University in St. Louis have been tracking the health of small groups of calorie-restricted dieters. Earlier this year, they reported that the dieters had better-functioning hearts and fewer signs of inflammation, which is a precursor to clogged arteries, than similar subjects on regular diets.

In previous studies, people in calorie-restricted groups were shown to have lower levels of LDL, the so-called bad cholesterol, and triglycerides. They also showed higher levels of HDL, the so-called good cholesterol, virtually no arterial blockage and, like Mr. Linksvayer, remarkably low blood pressure.

“Calorie restriction has a powerful, protective effect against diseases associated with aging,” said Dr. John O. Holloszy, a Washington University professor of medicine. “We don’t know how long each individual will end up living, but they certainly have a longer life expectancy than average.”

Researchers at Louisiana State University reported in April in The Journal of the American Medical Association that patients on an experimental low-calorie diet had lower insulin levels and body temperatures, both possible markers of longevity, and fewer signs of the chromosomal damage typically associated with aging.

These studies and others have led many scientists to believe they have stumbled onto a central determinant of natural life span. Animals on restricted diets seem particularly resistant to environmental stresses like oxidation and heat, perhaps even radiation. “It is a very deep, very important function,” Dr. Miller said. Experts theorize that limited access to energy alarms the body, so to speak, activating a cascade of biochemical signals that tell each cell to direct energy away from reproductive functions, toward repair and maintenance. The calorie-restricted organism is stronger, according to this hypothesis, because individual cells are more efficiently repairing mutations, using energy, defending themselves and mopping up harmful byproducts like free radicals.

“The stressed cell is really pulling out all the stops” to preserve itself, said Dr. Cynthia Kenyon, a molecular biologist at the University of California, San Francisco. “This system could have evolved as a way of letting animals take a timeout from reproduction when times are harsh.”

But many experts are unsettled by the prospect, however unlikely, of Americans adopting a draconian diet in hopes of living longer. Even the current epidemiological data, they note, do not consistently show that those who are thinnest live longest. After analyzing decades of national mortality statistics, federal researchers reported last year that exceptional thinness, a logical consequence of calorie restriction, was associated with an increased risk of death. This controversial study did not attempt to assess the number of calories the subjects had been consuming, or the quality of their diets, which may have had an effect on mortality rates.

Despite the initially promising results from studies of primates, some scientists doubt that calorie restriction can ever work effectively in humans. A mathematical model published last year by researchers at University of California, Los Angeles, and University of California, Irvine, predicted that the maximum life span gain from calorie restriction for humans would be just 7 percent. A more likely figure, the authors said, was 2 percent.

“Calorie restriction is doomed to fail, and will make people miserable in the process of attempting it,” said Dr. Jay Phelan, an evolutionary biologist at the University of California, Los Angeles, and a co-author of the paper. “We do see benefits, but not an increase in life span.”

Mice who must scratch for food for a couple of years would be analogous, in terms of natural selection, to humans who must survive 20-year famines, Dr. Phelan said. But nature seldom demands that humans endure such conditions.

Besides, he added, there is virtually no chance Americans will adopt such a severe menu plan in great numbers.

“Have you ever tried to go without food for a day?” Dr. Phelan asked. “I did it once, because I was curious about what the mice in my lab experienced, and I couldn’t even function at the end of the day.”

Even researchers who believe calorie restriction can extend life in humans concede that few Americans are likely to stick to such a restrained diet over a long period. The aging of the body is the aging of its cells, researchers like to say. While cell death is hardwired into every organism’s DNA, much of the infirmity that comes with advancing years is from an accumulation of molecular insults that, experts contend, may to some degree be prevented, even reversed.

“The goal is not just to make people live longer,” said Dr. David A. Sinclair, a molecular biologist at Harvard. “It’s to see eventually that an 80-year-old feels like a 50-year-old does today.”

In a series of studies, Dr. Kenyon, of the University of California, San Francisco, has created mutant roundworms that live six times longer than normal, largely because of a mutation in a single gene called daf-2. The gene encodes a receptor on the surface of cells similar to a receptor in humans that responds to two important hormones, insulin and the insulin-like growth factor 1 or IGF-1.

Insulin is necessary for the body to transport glucose into cells to fuel their operations. Dr. Kenyon and other researchers suggest that worm cells with mutated receptors may be “tricked” into sensing that nutrients are not available, even when they are. With its maintenance machinery thereby turned on high, each worm cell lives far longer — and so does the worm.

Many experts are now convinced that the energy-signaling pathways that employ insulin and IGF-1 are very involved in fixing an organism’s life span. Some researchers have even described Type 2 diabetes, which is marked by insensitivity to the hormone insulin, as simply an accelerated form of aging.

In yeast, scientists have discovered a gene similar to daf-2 called SIR2, that also helps to coordinate the cell’s defensive response once activated by calorie restriction or another external stressor. The genes encode proteins called sirtuins, which are found in both plants and animals.

A mammalian version of the SIR2 gene, called SIRT1, has been shown to regulate a number of processes necessary for long-term survival in calorie-restricted mice.

Scientists are now trying to develop synthetic compounds that affect the genes daf-2 and SIRT1.

Several candidate drugs designed to prevent age-related diseases, particularly diabetes, are on the drawing boards at biotech companies. Sirtris Pharmaceuticals, in Boston, already has begun testing a new drug in patients with Type 2 diabetes that acts on SIRT1 to improve the functioning of mitochondria, the cell’s energy factories.

While an anti-aging pill may be the next big blockbuster, some ethicists believe that the all-out determination to extend life span is veined with arrogance. As appointments with death are postponed, says Dr. Leon R. Kass, former chairman of the President’s Council on Bioethics, human lives may become less engaging, less meaningful, even less beautiful.

“Mortality makes life matter,” Dr. Kass recently wrote. “Immortality is a kind of oblivion — like death itself.”

That man’s time on this planet is limited, and rightfully so, is a cultural belief deeply held by many. But whether an increasing life span affords greater opportunity to find meaning or distracts from the pursuit, the prospect has become too great a temptation to ignore — least of all, for scientists.

“It’s a just big waste of talent and wisdom to have people die in their 60s and 70s,” said Dr. Sinclair of Harvard.

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#150 resveratrol

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Posted 05 November 2006 - 02:56 AM

In case anyone was wondering, yes, it's now been shown to work in mice, in addition to fish, yeast, etc., etc.

I understand that Mr. DeGrey may be skeptical about supplements, but until he has some sort of product I can buy, I'll stick with what's actually available.

From http://www.scienceda...61101151156.htm


Red Wine Molecule Extends Lifespan Of Fat Mice Lives By Reversing Obesity-Related Gene Pathways

Researchers have used a single compound to increase the lifespan of obese mice, and found that the drug reversed nearly all of the changes in gene expression patterns found in mice on high calorie diets--some of which are associated with diabetes, heart disease, and other significant diseases related to obesity. The research, led by investigators at Harvard Medical School and the National Institute on Aging, is the first time that the small molecule resveratrol has been shown to offer survival benefits in a mammal. The study is reported in the November 1 advanced online edition of Nature.

"Mice are much closer evolutionarily to humans than any previous model organism treated by this molecule, which offers hope that similar impacts might be seen in humans without negative side-effects," says co-senior author David Sinclair, HMS associate professor of pathology, and co-director of the Paul F. Glenn Labs for the Biological Mechanisms of Aging.

"After six months, resveratrol essentially prevented most of the negative effects of the high calorie diet in mice," said Rafael de Cabo, Ph.D., the study's other co-senior investigator from the National Institute on Aging's Laboratory of Experimental Gerontology, Aging, Metabolism, and Nutrition Unit. "There is a lot of work ahead that will help us better understand resveratrol's roles and the best applications for it."

Resveratrol is found in red wines and produced by a variety of plants when put under stress. It was first discovered to have an anti-aging properties by Sinclair, other HMS researchers, and their colleagues in 2003 and reported in Nature. The 2003 study showed that yeast treated with resveratrol lived 60 percent longer. Since 2003, resveratrol has been shown to extend the lifespan of worms and flies by nearly 30 percent, and fish by almost 60 percent. It has also been shown to protect against Huntington's disease in two different animal models (worms and mice).

"The "healthspan" benefits we saw in the obese mice treated with resveratrol, such as increased insulin sensitivity, decreased glucose levels, healthier heart and liver tissues, are positive clinical indicators and may mean we can stave off in humans age-related diseases such as type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and cancer, but only time and more research will tell," says Sinclair, who is also a co-founder of Sirtris, a company with an author on this paper and which is currently in a phase 1b trial in humans with diabetes using an enhanced, proprietary formulation of resveratrol. [Harvard has license and equity interests with Sirtris, which is not a public company.]

Investigators identified resveratrol while looking for compounds that activate Sir2, an enzyme linked to lifespan extension in yeast and other lower organisms. For the last 70 years, scientists have been able to increase the lifespan of a variety of species by reducing their normal food consumption by 30 to 40 percent - a diet known as calorie restriction. Through this research, scientists identified Sir2 as a key contributor to life extension. Without Sir2, for example, fruit flies see none of the benefits from either calorie restriction or treatment by resveratrol. The mammalian version of the Sir2 gene is SIRT1, which has the same enzymatic activity as Sir2, but modifies a wider variety of molecules throughout cells. Indicators in this study show that resveratrol might also be activating SIRT1 in mice, as well as other known longevity pathways.

How the Study Was Done

This study examined three groups of mice, one on a standard diet (SD), another on a high calorie diet (HC) with 60 percent of calories coming from fat, and a third group of mice on the same high calorie diet but also treated with resveratrol (HCR). At middle age, or roughly 52 weeks of life, the researchers put the mice on the different diets.

Survival Benefit

At 60 weeks of age, the survival rates of HC and HCR fed mice groups began to diverge and remained separated by a three to four month span. At 114 weeks of age, 58 percent of the HC fed mice had died, compared to 42 percent of the HCR and SD groups. Presently, the team has found resveratrol to reduce the risk of death from the HC diet by 31 percent, to a point where it is not significantly increased over the SD group. [Note: Given that mice are still living, final calculations can't be made.] "The median lifespan increase we are seeing is about 15 percent at this point," says Sinclair. "We won't have final lifespan numbers until all of the mice pass away, and this particular strain of mouse generally lives for two-and-a-half-years. So we are around five months from having final numbers, but there is no question that we are seeing increased longevity.

The team also found that the HCR fed mice had a much higher quality of life, outperforming the HC fed mice on motor skill tests. "The mice on resveratrol have not been just living longer," says Sinclair. "They are also living more active, better lives. Their motor skills actually show improvement as they grow older. "

Reversing Genetic Pathways Triggered by High Calorie Diet

The research team also wanted to see if resveratrol could reverse the changes in gene expression patterns triggered by high calorie diets. Using liver tissue of five mice at 18 months of age from each group, the team performed a whole-genome microarray and identified which genes were turned on or off. The researchers then used a database generated by the Broad Institute that groups individual genes into common functional pathways to see where there were major differences.

"We made a striking observation," says Sinclair. "Resveratrol opposed the effects of high caloric intake in 144 out of 153 significantly altered pathways. In terms of gene expression and pathway comparison, the resveratrol fed group was more similar to the standard diet fed group than the high calorie group."

Improved Health Biomarkers: Glucose and Insulin

In humans, high calorie diets can increase glucose and insulin levels leading to diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. In the HC fed mice, researchers found biomarkers that might predict diabetes, including increased levels of insulin, glucose and insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1). Conversely, the HCR fed group had significantly lower levels of these markers, paralleling the SD group. For example, a standard diabetes glucose test on the HCR fed group found considerably higher insulin sensitivity, meaning the HCR group had a lower disposition toward diabetes than the HC fed group. Lower insulin levels also predict increased lifespan in mice.

Organ Protection: Heart and Liver

Three pathologists examined heart tissue from the SD, HC, and HCR mice, and while not knowing which organ belonged to which mouse group, they looked for subtle changes in the abundance of fatty lesions, degeneration and inflammation. On a relative scale of 0-4, the assessment produced mean scores of 1.6 for the SD group, 3.2 for the HC group, and 1.2 for the HCR group.

The researchers also found that the livers of mice at 18 months of age on the HC diet were greatly increased in size and weight. Liver tissue studies of these mice showed a loss of cellular integrity, and a build-up of lipids, which is common to high fat diets. In contrast, the HCR group had normal, healthy livers.

Links to Calorie Restriction Lifespan Model

The researchers also looked for metabolic ties to resveratrol's impact: pathway changes that mimicked those caused by calorie restriction. They examined AMP-activated kinase (AMPK), a metabolic regulator that promotes insulin sensitivity and fatty acid oxidation. It's been shown in previous work that the lifespan of worms has been extended by the addition of copies the AMPK gene, and chronic activation of AMPK is seen on calorie-restricted diets. The researchers examined the livers of the HCR fed group and found a strong tendency for AMPK activation, as well as two downstream indicators of its activity.

Calorie restriction and exercise have also been previously shown to increase the number of mitochondria in the liver. Mitochondria generate energy in cells. Through electron microscopy, investigators showed that the livers of the HCR fed mice had considerably more mitochondria than the HC group, and were not significantly different from those of the SD group.

Links to SIRT1

The team also asked if SIRT1 was activated by resveratrol in mice, as Sir2 is in lower organisms. To determine this, they looked at the amount of a specific chemical modification (acetylation) on the molecule PGC-1alpha. Removal of the "acetyl" chemical groups on PGC-1alpha activates this protein so that it can turn on certain genes that generate mitochondria and turn muscle into the type suited for endurance. The only enzyme known to remove the acetyl chemical groups on PGC-1alpha is SIRT1, and therefore the activity of PGC-1alpha is one of the most reliable and specific markers of SIRT1 activity in mammals. The research team found that levels of PGC-1alpha were three-fold lower in the HCR fed mice than in the HC mice, consistent with what would be expected when SIRT1 was being activated by resveratrol.

"This work demonstrates that there may be tremendous medical benefits to unlocking the secrets behind the genes that control our longevity," says Sinclair, "No doubt many more remain to be discovered in coming years."

This study was supported by Paul F. Glenn and the Glenn Foundation for Medical Research, the U.S. National Institutes of Health and the National Institute of Aging, the Ellison Medical Research Foundation, the American Heart Foundation, and the American Diabetes Association.






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