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Raw Kale, cabbage, boccolli, and goiter risk?


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#1 health_nutty

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Posted 22 December 2008 - 06:55 PM


I've read that overconsumption of these raw veggies can cause goiter. I'm drinking a daily smoothie of 1/2 a head of raw kale and a 1/4 head of raw red cabbage daily. What is the real risk at this amount?

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Posted 22 December 2008 - 10:26 PM

I've read that overconsumption of these raw veggies can cause goiter. I'm drinking a daily smoothie of 1/2 a head of raw kale and a 1/4 head of raw red cabbage daily. What is the real risk at this amount?


But I do want the apparent benefit of raw veggies (not to mention more convenient):
http://cebp.aacrjour...tract/13/9/1422

This review of the medical literature from 1994 to 2003 summarizes the relationship between raw and cooked vegetables and cancer risk and examines whether they may affect cancer risk differently. Twenty-eight studies examined the relationship between raw and cooked vegetables and risk for various cancers. Twenty-one studies assessed raw, but not cooked, vegetables and cancer risk. The majority of these assessed risk of oral, pharyngeal, laryngeal, esophageal, lung, gastric, and colorectal cancers. Most showed that vegetables, raw or cooked, were inversely related to these cancers. However, more consistent results were found for oral, pharyngeal, laryngeal, esophageal, and gastric cancers. Nine of the 11 studies of raw and cooked vegetables showed statistically significant inverse relationships of these cancers with raw vegetables, but only 4 with cooked vegetables. The few studies of breast, lung, and colorectal cancers also suggested an inverse relationship with both raw and cooked vegetables, but these results were less consistent. In the two studies of prostate cancer, there was no association with either raw or cooked vegetables. One of two bladder cancer studies found an inverse relationship with cooked, but not raw, vegetables. Possible mechanisms by which cooking affects the relationship between vegetables and cancer risk include changes in availability of some nutrients, destruction of digestive enzymes, and alteration of the structure and digestibility of food. Both raw and cooked vegetable consumption are inversely related to epithelial cancers, particularly those of the upper gastrointestinal tract, and possibly breast cancer; however, these relationships may be stronger for raw vegetables than cooked vegetables.

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Posted 22 December 2008 - 11:04 PM

First of all, are you worried about your thyroid ?
Low body temp, feel cold or anything like that ?

Is Broccoli Bad for the Thyroid?

Maybe you should lightly steam it ?

More links

The following seems to think that the goitrogenic effect is the same as the anti-cancer effect.
http://www.ithyroid.com/goitrogens.htm

http://thyroid.about...oid-talking.htm

http://thyroid.about...oid-veggies.htm

http://www.naturalhe...oidbadfoods.htm

Don't care for broccoli? A receptor gene's variation suggests an evolutionary excuse

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Posted 23 December 2008 - 12:03 AM

Atleast make sure you get sufficient iodine. That ought to help at least a little bit with the thyroid.

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Posted 23 December 2008 - 01:03 AM

First of all, are you worried about your thyroid ?
Low body temp, feel cold or anything like that ?

Is Broccoli Bad for the Thyroid?

Maybe you should lightly steam it ?

More links

The following seems to think that the goitrogenic effect is the same as the anti-cancer effect.
http://www.ithyroid.com/goitrogens.htm

http://thyroid.about...oid-talking.htm

http://thyroid.about...oid-veggies.htm

http://www.naturalhe...oidbadfoods.htm

Don't care for broccoli? A receptor gene's variation suggests an evolutionary excuse


Thanks for the info I don't have any specific reasons to worry about my thyroid. I'm consuming these things for maximum health, I don't want to be harming myself.

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Posted 23 December 2008 - 05:58 AM

I wonder if adding sea vegetables to your diet (if you don't already eat them) would mitigate against any risk due to iodine content.


First of all, are you worried about your thyroid ?
Low body temp, feel cold or anything like that ?

Is Broccoli Bad for the Thyroid?

Maybe you should lightly steam it ?

More links

The following seems to think that the goitrogenic effect is the same as the anti-cancer effect.
http://www.ithyroid.com/goitrogens.htm

http://thyroid.about...oid-talking.htm

http://thyroid.about...oid-veggies.htm

http://www.naturalhe...oidbadfoods.htm

Don't care for broccoli? A receptor gene's variation suggests an evolutionary excuse


Thanks for the info I don't have any specific reasons to worry about my thyroid. I'm consuming these things for maximum health, I don't want to be harming myself.


Edited by wydell, 23 December 2008 - 05:59 AM.


#7 health_nutty

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Posted 23 December 2008 - 04:59 PM

I wonder if adding sea vegetables to your diet (if you don't already eat them) would mitigate against any risk due to iodine content.


That's a good suggestion.




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