[health_nutty]

I'm going to start taking this after every meal:

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/19630216

Apple cider vinegar attenuates lipid profile in normal and diabetic rats.

Shishehbor F, Mansoori A, Sarkaki AR, Jalali MT, Latifi SM.

Department of Nutrition, Para-Medical School, Ahvaz Jundishapour University of Medical Sciences, Ahvaz, Islamic Republic of Iran.

In this study, the effect of apple cider vinegar on Fasting Blood Glucose (FBG), glycated haemoglobin (HbA1c) and lipid profile in normal and diabetic rats was investigated. Diabetes was induced in male Wistar rats (300+/-30 g) by the intraperitoneal injection of streptozotocin (60 mg kg(-1) of body weight). Both normal and diabetic animals were fed with standard animal food containing apple cider vinegar (6% w/w) for 4 weeks. Fasting blood glucose did not change, while HbA1c significantly decreased by apple cider vinegar in diabetic group (p<0.05). In normal rats fed with vinegar, significant reduction of low density lipoprotein-cholesterol (LDL-c) (p<0.005) and significant increase of high density lipoprotein-cholesterol (HDL-c) levels (p<0.005) were observed. Apple cider vinegar also reduced serum triglyceride (TG) levels (p<0.005) and increased HDL-c (p<0.005) in diabetic animals. These results indicate that apple cider vinegar improved the serum lipid profile in normal and diabetic rats by decreasing serum TG, LDL-c and increasing serum HDL-c and may be of great value in managing the diabetic complications.

[tintinet]

Not before?

[adamh]

I take the dry tablet form of vinegar. I wonder if that's as good as drinking the liquid form? I just can't stomach drinking vinegar

[health_nutty]

tintinet, on Nov 15 2009, 04:08 PM, said:

Not before?

I could drink it either way. Do you think it matters?

[niner]

The rats got it mixed with their food, so they were consuming it whenever they ate. What I'd like to know is what is responsible for this? Is it just the acetic acid, or is there something from the apples? Would white vinegar work?

[health_nutty]

niner, on Nov 15 2009, 06:49 PM, said:

The rats got it mixed with their food, so they were consuming it whenever they ate. What I'd like to know is what is responsible for this? Is it just the acetic acid, or is there something from the apples? Would white vinegar work?

That is a very good question. Could be polyphenols from apples, or acetic acid, or even malic acid. I did read an article that suggested it was the acetic acid, but I think I might as well just use what was in the study since it tastes the best anyway.

[tintinet]

I used to drink/eat a lot of vinegar with meals (salad dressing or just diluted in water for drinking), but I think it really took a toll on my tooth enamel.

[hyper_ventriloquism]

I've been drinking two tablespoons apple cider vinegar with half a teaspoon sodium bicarbonate mixed into six ounces water after meals if I get heartburn. It works great. After learning about the kidney protection that sodium bicarbonate provides and this potentially great news about cider vinegar, I think I'll start taking the heartburn mix at least twice a day, if I have heartburn or not. Also, the sodium bicarbonate brings the pH of the solution to around 7, so no worries about tooth enamel. I'd just recommend to mix the solution until the bicarbonate is completely dissolved, and to watch dietary sodium intake a bit closer.

[wolfeye]

I use ACV in my sallad, rice and rye-bread. It goes everywhere.

[morganator]

Evidently you need to consume raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar to receive the full health benefits. The color of the vinegar should not be white but instead a yellowish brown color. This is supposed to be a good brand.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=...nL062zYDjooKvFw

This post has been edited by morganator: 02 December 2009 - 05:09 AM

[meat250]

same stuff i drink and drink it regularly with high carb means, or when i get the munchies at night! alot of great health benefits. make sure to the the AVC that contains the mother, which are the floaty chunks!!! lemon juice and pickles also have the same carb-quenching effects also

Meat

[Condraz23]

adamh, on Nov 16 2009, 02:33 PM, said:

I take the dry tablet form of vinegar. I wonder if that's as good as drinking the liquid form? I just can't stomach drinking vinegar

I didn't know it was possible to have vinegar in tablet form!

I tried drinking both white and apple cider vinegar before but I found it stings the throat really bad.

[health_nutty]

Condraz23, on Dec 4 2009, 04:57 AM, said:

adamh, on Nov 16 2009, 02:33 PM, said:

I take the dry tablet form of vinegar. I wonder if that's as good as drinking the liquid form? I just can't stomach drinking vinegar

I didn't know it was possible to have vinegar in tablet form!

I tried drinking both white and apple cider vinegar before but I found it stings the throat really bad.

You won't get much vinegar from the pills. You are supposed to dillute 1 tablespoon in 8oz of water. If it still stings try 1-2 teaspoons.

[adamh]

health_nutty, on Dec 4 2009, 05:01 PM, said:

You won't get much vinegar from the pills. You are supposed to dillute 1 tablespoon in 8oz of water. If it still stings try 1-2 teaspoons.

I was surprised too that they could put vinegar in a pill. But when I smell the pills they smell strongly of vinegar. They will burn your nose it's so strong. I don't know how they make it in a solid form.

I do know that vinegar will dissolve your tooth enamel and diluting it does not stop that from happening.

[morganator]

adamh, on Dec 4 2009, 02:28 PM, said:

health_nutty, on Dec 4 2009, 05:01 PM, said:

You won't get much vinegar from the pills. You are supposed to dillute 1 tablespoon in 8oz of water. If it still stings try 1-2 teaspoons.

I was surprised too that they could put vinegar in a pill. But when I smell the pills they smell strongly of vinegar. They will burn your nose it's so strong. I don't know how they make it in a solid form.

I do know that vinegar will dissolve your tooth enamel and diluting it does not stop that from happening.

Drinking through a straw will though. So eating salad with balsamic vinegar on a regular basis is a bad idea? I think my enamel is long gone anyway

[adamh]

Figure that if the solution is in contact with your teeth for 30 seconds each day, that's about 3 hours a year. Would you want a solution of acid in your mouth for 3 solid hours? I'm sure it would have an effect. Using a straw might help but some will move around in the mouth unless you have a tube going down your throat, lol.

I have no idea how they make the vinegar into solid form. It just says apple cider vinegar tablets sold by puritans pride. Taking a tablet eliminates the however many hours a year of acid on your teeth. Even a microscopic pit will provide a haven for bacteria to stick and do it's thing. BTW, xylitol is good for preventing tooth decay.

[niner]

Teeth are living things and they do regenerate to some degree, as long as you don't wear away the enamel. I think you can get away with some acid exposure, although less would be better and the best thing of all would be to rinse your mouth with water, or even better, something mildly alkaline, after the vinegar.

[tintinet]

I used to "eat" a lot of vinegar, until my teeth really started to become sensitive.

[hyper_ventriloquism]

niner, on Dec 5 2009, 05:04 PM, said:

Teeth are living things and they do regenerate to some degree, as long as you don't wear away the enamel. I think you can get away with some acid exposure, although less would be better and the best thing of all would be to rinse your mouth with water, or even better, something mildly alkaline, after the vinegar.

Like I said above, I put 2 tablespoons of ACV in 6-8 oz water with .5 teaspoons of sodium bicarbonate. pH was ~7 last time I checked...fine for tooth enamel, extra benefits of sodium bicarbonate, and it's a tasty beverage.

[Condraz23]

Hmm... OK but does sodium acetate confer the same benefits as acetic acid?